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Possible of getting sub-3.5 average for 2x2 using ORTEGA Method?

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Hey guys,

I was just wondering if it is possibly to average sub-3.5 (ORTEGA Method), as i currently average 3.92 seconds using that method?

Average of 5: 3.92
1. (5.82) U2 F' U F' U' R F2 U R' (NL
2. (2.47) U' R' U2 R U' (L)
3. 3.13 F' U2 F U' F' U F R' U' (L)
4. 3.55 F' U' R2 F2 U' R' F2 R2 U' (L)
5. 5.09 U F2 R' F U F R' U R U' (NL)

Well, not really (really lucky scrambles)

Average of 12: 4.95
1. 5.80 U F2 U' R2 U' R U2 F' U2 (NL)
2. 4.49 R2 U2 R' F2 U R' U' R (NL)
3. 5.96 R' U' R U' F R2 U F' U2 (NL)
4. 4.42 F U R' U2 F U' F2 U' R' (NL)
5. 4.22 F U F U2 F U' R' U2 F (NL)
6. 6.50 F2 U R' F U' F2 R2 (NL)
7. 4.32 U R U2 R2 F R' F' R2 U2 (NL)
8. (DNF) R2 F' U' R2 F R' U' F' (NL)
9. 3.88 U' F' R F2 U' F2 U' R (NL)
10. (3.20) F' U' R2 F U2 F2 R U' (L)
11. 5.03 R2 F2 U F' R2 U2 R' F2 U' (NL)
12. 4.88 F2 U' R' U2 R U F2 U F R (NL)
 
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I think sub-3 is possible, because i just thought of one factor of my crap averages:
TOO much lock-ups.

I could've easily gotten sub-3.5 averages, if i were to use a better cube than a Lan-Lan... well i didn't lubricate it, so that might be another factor...
 

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I think Rowan got sub3 with Ortega? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yup, high 2 avg of 12, and I think my PB avg100 was about 3.4. They were both with keyboard though, so it doesn't really count.

Not sure about Rowe.

Pretty much any 2x2 method that allows solutions of at least 15-17 moves on average can be sub 3ed.
 

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I think sub-3 is possible, because i just thought of one factor of my crap averages:
TOO much lock-ups.

I could've easily gotten sub-3.5 averages, if i were to use a better cube than a Lan-Lan... well i didn't lubricate it, so that might be another factor...
I thought Lanlan was the best 2x2?
 

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I think sub-3 is possible, because i just thought of one factor of my crap averages:
TOO much lock-ups.

I could've easily gotten sub-3.5 averages, if i were to use a better cube than a Lan-Lan... well i didn't lubricate it, so that might be another factor...
If you don't Like lanlan I would recommend a Ghost hand 2x2...when they are lubricated and tensioned they are really nice. :D
 

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ive gotten somewhere between 2.5-2.9 avg12 with ortega last time i tried it, but not sure of the exact time.
 

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hello guys.this is my improvemenr in 2x2:
-avg 15 after learning ortegas algs.
-easy avg 10 after get used of the algs
-avg 6,8-7,5 just getting better with oll recognition only by practise
-avg 6-6,7 by starting to oredeict the fl bar position
-avg 5,5-6,5 by buying a better cube (moju llingpo)
BUT NOW I I HAVE STUCKED THERE..what is the next step to get 3,5-5 with ortega?
 

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hello guys.this is my improvemenr in 2x2:
-avg 15 after learning ortegas algs.
-easy avg 10 after get used of the algs
-avg 6,8-7,5 just getting better with oll recognition only by practise
-avg 6-6,7 by starting to oredeict the fl bar position
-avg 5,5-6,5 by buying a better cube (moju llingpo)
BUT NOW I I HAVE STUCKED THERE..what is the next step to get 3,5-5 with ortega?
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At some point, Ortegavarasano just isn't quite worth it, and learning CLL or EG would be a better use of your time. If mid 3 is your only goal though, then those alg sets aren't necessary.
 
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