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Orion's progression thread: learning cll we do it (12/42 CLL)

What should my 3x3 main be?

  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .
AhsanDaCuber125 said:
I feel like I'll never get Squan, because I don't want to. Squan seems very tricky to me.
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the trickiest part really is learning cubeshap (CS) but after that, it's all memorization. I'm learning it rn and it's fun cuz I feel like I'm relearning the 3x3
 
For everyone who does Square-1, tell me if these are good ideas for learning it when my MGC comes:
1. Learn every cubeshape case with every six corners on the bottom. Using a virtual cube, it's quite easy to get to that state, and it only requires 5 algorithms (I think).
2. Since I know intuitive CO from doing 2x2x3, I only need to learn the EO case to swap two white-black edges, not four. This should be relatively easy to do, and with enough repetition and my already prior knowledge of the (1,0)/(-1,-1)/(0,1) algorithm, I should be able to do EOBL very fast.
3. Once again, 2x2x3 practice is my biggest asset for learning, as I find CP easy and fast. These algorithms should be shared across puzzles. So I realistically only need to learn the U-perm and the parity algorithm, plus some simple intuitive whatnot. I expect to be able to solve with no help within a week of when I get my MGC.
 
Bingus Ringus McDingus said:
For everyone who does Square-1, tell me if these are good ideas for learning it when my MGC comes:
1. Learn every cubeshape case with every six corners on the bottom. Using a virtual cube, it's quite easy to get to that state, and it only requires 5 algorithms (I think).
2. Since I know intuitive CO from doing 2x2x3, I only need to learn the EO case to swap two white-black edges, not four. This should be relatively easy to do, and with enough repetition and my already prior knowledge of the (1,0)/(-1,-1)/(0,1) algorithm, I should be able to do EOBL very fast.
3. Once again, 2x2x3 practice is my biggest asset for learning, as I find CP easy and fast. These algorithms should be shared across puzzles. So I realistically only need to learn the U-perm and the parity algorithm, plus some simple intuitive whatnot. I expect to be able to solve with no help within a week of when I get my MGC.
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no. learn only basic cs starting out, and learn full EO and CO
 
Bingus Ringus McDingus said:
For everyone who does Square-1, tell me if these are good ideas for learning it when my MGC comes:
1. Learn every cubeshape case with every six corners on the bottom. Using a virtual cube, it's quite easy to get to that state, and it only requires 5 algorithms (I think).
2. Since I know intuitive CO from doing 2x2x3, I only need to learn the EO case to swap two white-black edges, not four. This should be relatively easy to do, and with enough repetition and my already prior knowledge of the (1,0)/(-1,-1)/(0,1) algorithm, I should be able to do EOBL very fast.
3. Once again, 2x2x3 practice is my biggest asset for learning, as I find CP easy and fast. These algorithms should be shared across puzzles. So I realistically only need to learn the U-perm and the parity algorithm, plus some simple intuitive whatnot. I expect to be able to solve with no help within a week of when I get my MGC.
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I’m not sure learning every star case is that useful. Just learn how to reduce every shape to scallop/kite or scallop/scallop and the 3 slicers, before slowly doing the rest, best way is probably using the chart on Reddit, since it’s important to remember most CS cases can be done from other angles.

Also look at the Lin method. It’s not as fast as top level vandenbergh but still sub 5.5able and much more fun than the monotony which is the vandenbergh method. Otherwise your CO plan is good, but for CP since most algs involve turning both layers simultaneously I would revise those.

EO i don’t really know, I’d say just learn all of them as there aren’t many cases. For EP make sure you can do adj/adj, opp/opp and good U/U and for the rest do a combo of those algs but try to cancel slices for efficiency.

By the way I never really got fast at vandenbergh, averaged like 30 when I switched to LBl and about 25 when I finally switched to Lin. However I currently average 12-13 so I think I can help a bit
 
ogSkewbed said:
I don't do squan in weekly comps or forum comps because I don't (and never will) know notation.
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It’s not that hard to learn the notation. Basically, (3,3)/ means do a U and D, the slice. But if it was (1,3)/ then you the U layer by 1 movement and do a D, then slice, which means to turn the right side twice. (-5,-4)/ would be 5 movement as U’ (it would be close to U2’) and D’ + one movement, then slice.
 
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