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Victor.a.lee

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PLEASE can someone help me with this issue, it is driving me completely insane.

I am trying to do BLD using super simple Old Pochmann for edges and corners. I’m only using the T permutation for edges but something very strange is happening and it seems to be moving around the corner pieces as well. I have been solving edges first and then corners, the edges end up in the right place basically every time but the corners are always almost all wrong. I then did it corners first and then edges and filmed it, at the half way point, all of the corners seem to be in the right place, but at the end, the corners are all in the wrong places BUT the edges are in the right places. Evidence as to my wacky claim is in the attached screenshots from the video and photos.


Am I doing something wrong?? I have checked the algorithms several I’m using several times and they seem to be right. Could there be something wrong with my cube??

Please help!!!
 

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Victor.a.lee

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the tperm does move the corners but only the ones next to the edge u are going to swap
that is supposed to happen

Thanks. Yes I realise I that, but it should also switch them back if I am doing the tperm an even number of times, which I did. It also seems to be moving more than just those corners next to the edge I am swapping.
 

AbsoRuud

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PLEASE can someone help me with this issue, it is driving me completely insane.

I am trying to do BLD using super simple Old Pochmann for edges and corners. I’m only using the T permutation for edges but something very strange is happening and it seems to be moving around the corner pieces as well. I have been solving edges first and then corners, the edges end up in the right place basically every time but the corners are always almost all wrong. I then did it corners first and then edges and filmed it, at the half way point, all of the corners seem to be in the right place, but at the end, the corners are all in the wrong places BUT the edges are in the right places. Evidence as to my wacky claim is in the attached screenshots from the video and photos.


Am I doing something wrong?? I have checked the algorithms several I’m using several times and they seem to be right. Could there be something wrong with my cube??

Please help!!!
I am going to guess that your setup moves are moving the pieces that are also moved by the T Perm.

I have a google spreadsheet that helps with 3BLD. This is the link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KQUY5_UmGY2nO2pKfmzcTkV6MOSHrCjJ2ASWJl_swPg/edit?usp=sharing

Basically, you type in all your letters in the appropriate boxes, put your setup moves to put your cube in the right orientation, and then you see all the moves you have to do, which you can even paste into alg.cubing.net to check if your memo was correct. It also automatically inserts parity. It's read only, so you'll have to make a copy for your own use. It includes both SPEFFZ (which most people use) and the alternative letter scheme KRZ (which Shawn Boucke uses).
 

Habsen

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Is there any good way to flip the UFR and UBR with out having to have to do a beginners method style corner twist
I do (R' D R D' R' D R) U (R' D' R D R' D' R) U' or the inverse. Also works for many other corner twists with the corresponding setups and U turns.
 

Victor.a.lee

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I am going to guess that your setup moves are moving the pieces that are also moved by the T Perm.

I have a google spreadsheet that helps with 3BLD. This is the link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KQUY5_UmGY2nO2pKfmzcTkV6MOSHrCjJ2ASWJl_swPg/edit?usp=sharing

Basically, you type in all your letters in the appropriate boxes, put your setup moves to put your cube in the right orientation, and then you see all the moves you have to do, which you can even paste into alg.cubing.net to check if your memo was correct. It also automatically inserts parity. It's read only, so you'll have to make a copy for your own use. It includes both SPEFFZ (which most people use) and the alternative letter scheme KRZ (which Shawn Boucke uses).

You were right! I was messing up something with my set up moves. Thank you so much for helping!!
 

1cubealot

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Hi there.

Here is a very random question: how do i solve a clock bld.
I dont know why i want to know it just popped into my head.

Thank you
 

Brest

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Hi there.

Here is a very random question: how do i solve a clock bld.
I dont know why i want to know it just popped into my head.

Thank you
 

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first, look up the regulations, 4b3a is:
 
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