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Actually, as I was typing this, it occurred to me that the logical thing was probably to do that. And that's actually how I do it on a 5x5x5 or a 7x7x7, although I generally have to think about it too much (I think of the L2 R2 U' as setup moves, and usually don't do the cancel).
Actually, I think of U' M' U2 M U' as a different thing entirely, and not as a setup/cancellation of the M' U2 M U2 commutator. In fact I think more when doing M' U2 M U2 type commutators (in terms of which piece will go where) compared to doing U' M' U2 M U'. I just view U' M' U2 M U' and U M' U2 M U as a V shaped 3-cycle, with the middle 3 moves being the same and the U'/U at the start/end will be in the same direction as how the pieces cycle (ie U' M' U2 M U' cycles DF>UR>UF and vice versa). I find this alg very useful in BLD and it helps reduce thinking a lot if you just think of it as a 3 cycle alg, so really in the case of DF>DR>DL I just see the setup moves as L2 R2.
 

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R2 u M u2 M u R2
That one is really amazing! I'm not sure I can get where I think that way, though.

The worst U perms for me are the ones like DF->RF->UF.
Interesting; I never really thought of that as a U perm (although clearly it is). I've always done that one as non-bigcube-center-safe (but works if centers are solved) R2 B M' U2 M U2 B' R2. It's not that good for execution, but it's easy for me to see, and just 8 slice moves. Of course, the "beginner's U perm" (R2 F' E' F2 E F' R2; I'd assume you'd find another way to orient it so it was reasonable) is another option - it's just 7 moves.
 

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40 to 2:00. I'm pretty bad at OH and the number of slice moves doesn't help :p
 

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I guess I'm about 1:30 slower. I just did an avg 3/5:

Average: 3:11.00
Standard Deviation: 14.13
Best Time: 2:39.70
Worst Time: 3:33.33
Individual Times:
1. 2:45.20 D F U2 R' F2 L2 U D2 F L' F' R2 B2 U F2 U F2 U' L2 U2
2. 3:23.98 U B' L B2 D F2 U' D L2 B L' U F2 U R2 B2 D' R2 D R2 F2
3. (2:39.70) R L2 D2 L U L B' D2 R U2 R' U' F2 U' D2 B2 U2 R2 U R2 U'
4. (3:33.33) D' R L' U' R D R' F' B R B D L2 B2 D' B2 U F2 B2 U2 D
5. 3:23.81 U F' B' L D' L' D2 L2 U2 D' F' R2 U' R2 U F2 L2 U2 B2 R2 F2

I probably average about 1:45 on 3x3x3, so about 1:30 difference.

I'd go a little faster except that I insist on being stupid and following the old rules for OH - I only allow one hand for inspection as well as solve. That limits my ability to mark the pieces I've already memorized with my fingers, which means I'm often over a minute memorizing.
 

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Mine is something along the lines of - 1:50 to ~9:00
Yah... so I discovered that using BH corners instead of OP corners really cuts down the times for OHBLD. Somewhere around mid 4min now.

Anybody know of a good way to perform Per Specials OH? (In case anybody's wondering why I'm doing OHBLD, I've injured my right wrist)
 

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1. Learn a pure 2-edge flip
2. Go on Pochmann's website and read it/follow the examples
3. Memorize the 4 cases that aren't intuitive
 

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Read Pochmann's website

Don't solve FU and BD the same way he does though.
 

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how do you memorize cornes?, I suck at visual memo, I can memorize edges in 40s aprox with visual and some letters, but corners in like 30s :S
Auditory is nice. Just give each letter of each corner a letter, and then quickly say the letters of the full corner memo in your head, quickly pull on your blindfold an solve.

Your brain is hardwired to remember the last 10 seconds of information it heard. This allows humans to be able to communicate with each other. It's not something you have to work towards to get.
 

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that's intresting, I have to give to each sticker a syllable?
For single syllable sounds the method is usually to give each sticker a letter, and then use a pair of letters to combine into a single syllable word. For example GW would be the word "Gown."

Your idea is actually very interesting. In a sense it would be an expanded version of the Major system, which is extremely easy and efficient for memorizing things like phone numbers. Wow... I have to be honest that I never thought to give each sticker a syllable, but this is something that would be worth exploring.

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Wow, ok I will definitely try to explore this further. Let's look at some short single syllable words with lots of consonant sounds. "Strip" could be "S" followed by "TR" followed by "P". Vowel sounds carry no information in the major system. So a single syllable word can convey more than 2 pieces of information.

"Blast" could be "B" followed by "L" followed by "S" followed by "T". So if you used those 4 consonants then the word "blast" conveys 4 pieces of information. Wow, this is quite interesting!
 
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For single syllable sounds the method is usually to give each sticker a letter, and then use a pair of letters to combine into a single syllable word. For example GW would be the word "Gown."

Your idea is actually very interesting. In a sense it would be an expanded version of the Major system, which is extremely easy and efficient for memorizing things like phone numbers. Wow... I have to be honest that I never thought to give each sticker a syllable, but this is something that would be worth exploring.
I have been using single syllables for each corner sticker since I started out BLD, it's very simple really. Label each corner with a consonant (well one of mine is an A cos I was dumb when I started :fp) and add a vowel to represent it's orientation (eg a for U/D, i for F/B, o for L/R). Of course there're other ways to do this, like I think Kirjava does some Japanese characters thingy =p
 

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I have been using single syllables for each corner sticker since I started out BLD, it's very simple really. Label each corner with a consonant (well one of mine is an A cos I was dumb when I started :fp) and add a vowel to represent it's orientation (eg a for U/D, i for F/B, o for L/R). Of course there're other ways to do this, like I think Kirjava does some Japanese characters thingy =p
Yes, now that you mention it I do remember Kir posting about his memory method. I guess I never thought about the power of such a method before. I never thought that a single syllable word could convey more than 2 pieces of information, but with such a method it certainly could.
 
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