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OLLs and PLLs: Do you know them?

What is YOUR status on the last layer?

  • Full PLL and Full OLL

    Votes: 81 36.2%
  • Full OLL and 2-look PLL

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Full PLL and 2-look OLL

    Votes: 81 36.2%
  • 2-look OLL and 2-look PLL

    Votes: 30 13.4%
  • I'm learning Full OLL

    Votes: 51 22.8%
  • I'm learning full PLL

    Votes: 27 12.1%

  • Total voters
    224

Olivér Perge

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I'm wondering who were the 2 persons who clicked full OLL and two look PLL. I just can't imagine that...

David is right. Full OLL is not hard at all. You just need to decide to learn them all and before you realize it, it's done. I remember when I had 13 OLLs left, I learned them one time in an hour or so. It's easier to learn if you print like 6-8 algorithms for one case, so you can pick the best/fastest/most fingertrick friendly/most similar to other OLLs or PLLs.

Ah, I know full OLL and PLL.
 

Dene

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I put "Full PLL and Full OLL", although this is now technically incorrect, because I have long since forgotten one of the dot cases. I have tried several times to re-memorise it, but it just doesn't stick. I try to use partial edge control so the issue rarely arises.
 

Alex DiTuro

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I know full OLL and full PLL and I am averaging 30-35 seconds. Now all I have to worry about is executing my OLLs and Plls faster and more efficiently and working a lot on F2L.

That's basically the whole solve :D

I know Full PLL with about 25 OLLs. I average 20ish.

I could be sub 20 with a better LL. I average 12 seconds on the F2L.
 

jiggy

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I use full OLL and full PLL and tend to adverage mid-20s. When I finished learning them, however, I was something in the range of 30+.

IMO, you should get full OLL out of the way as soon as you have finished learning full PLL, with no break in between. It's far easier to get them done while you are still in "algorithm learning mode" and now I know I wont have to learn them later! :)

The big number isn't so bad either, many of them are mirrors or contain similar triggers. I find that the more algs you learn the easier it becomes to memorise the next one.
 

DAE_JA_VOO

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I put "Full PLL and Full OLL", although this is now technically incorrect, because I have long since forgotten one of the dot cases. I have tried several times to re-memorise it, but it just doesn't stick. I try to use partial edge control so the issue rarely arises.

Wow, really? The "dot" cases are all so simple or symmetrical though. Come on Dene, pick them up again :p Those cases were actually the first OLLs I studied :p



I know around 45 OLLs, 21 PLLs, and 19-21 second average.

Sounds about the same as me. I'm almost done with the OLLs and I'm averaging between 18-21 seconds.
 

chavak

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A couple of OLL and full PLL, I am still very slow, > 60sec. But I have not given up.
 

bobso2

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Maybe it sounds stupid but i did first learn the full OLL and after that I started to learn full PLL :D

I did not know that it was more efficient to learn PLL first

Now I have learned them all, I was finished when my times were >35

now I average sub 30... so, I have to go practise now
 

Dene

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I put "Full PLL and Full OLL", although this is now technically incorrect, because I have long since forgotten one of the dot cases. I have tried several times to re-memorise it, but it just doesn't stick. I try to use partial edge control so the issue rarely arises.

Wow, really? The "dot" cases are all so simple or symmetrical though. Come on Dene, pick them up again :p Those cases were actually the first OLLs I studied :p

Yea me too, but I have no need for it now seeing as I almost completely strictly use partial edge control.
 

Cubenovice

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2 look OLL and 2 look PLL.
Currently studying some easy-to-recognise OLL cases: Dots - Lines - T's and the H and X cases.

Best average of 5: 1min 12s
So still lots of work on my F2L and turning speed
 

dada222

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2 look PLL and full OLL.

I'm curious: How did you learn a group of 57 algorithms before learning a group of 21 algorithms? How many PLLs are missing? I think you should learn those PLLs soon.

I just did. I know the PLLs for edges and corners only so about 15 I'm missing.
I didn't even properly know about PLLs at the time I learned the OLLs so maybe that's why :p
 
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Daniel Que

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I know full OLL and PLL and average 14-ish.

I was missing the four G-perms and a bunch of OLLs for such a long time, but I still managed to average 15-ish. Between knowing most and knowing all, there is a slight difference, but its ot that big. Basically, whenever I got a G Perm, my time would be a second or two slower than my average but every other time, it was fine.
 

Litz

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Full OLL isn't that hard. Most algorithms are simillar/mirrors or share common triggers. And they're short.
 
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