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Non-WCA ao1000: Kilominx

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Hello everybody, I wanted to make this thread to explore different non-wca events, get somewhat good at them, and then share some tips and my opinion on whether they should become an official event or not. I'd love to see any of the events I try here being discussed, and I'm happy to take suggestions as well. I'll be updating this post with my thoughts on each event whenever I finish a new ao1000 too.

Best Single: 15.92 (last layer skip with no auf)
Best ao5: 23.67
Best ao12: 25.15
Best ao100: 26.97
ao1000: 36.41

First/Worst Solve: 2:18.50
Last Solve: 18.32

So the first 200 solves or so were just me getting used to the kilominx and how it's solved. I wanted to experiment with different ways of doing things efficiently and solving the last layer better. I learned a couple of OLLs and realized that there were only 3 PLLs, not however many I thought there were to begin with. At around 300 solves, I began the magnetizing process. I messed a lot of it up the first time, lost the motivation to fix it and I had a ton of schoolwork to do so I put it away for a while. When school ended, I finished the magnetization and it was instantly much better. My ao100 dropped from 41 to sub 30 in just a few days, where I remained until today, just managing to break past sub 27 at the end.

So should kilominx actually be an event? Some pros:
  • Incredibly spectator friendly, it's right in the sweet spot where it isn't too fast or slow.
  • No big entry gate, you can solve one intuitively and there are very few algs that you have to learn to be fast. (i'd go for full PLL and a few OLLs, so not much)
  • Combines the best aspects of different events (I'll talk about this later)
  • Not too similar to megaminx
Cons:
  • Would it be kibi or kilo? Or even 2x2 megaminx/dodecahedron?
  • Not great hardware
  • ???
  • Difficult to recognize CLL cases at the most advanced level
Obviously I'm a bit biased, but kilominx has so much to offer as an event in my opinion. The first layer requires efficient blockbuilding planned in inspection, the middle slice/S2L requires efficiency and a lot of lookahead, and the last layer rewards the ability to differentiate difficult cases and find creative fingertricks. This separates kilominx from megaminx because F2L skills don't help much here. In fact, if you solved a kilominx like a megaminx it would be rather inefficient and you'd probably plateau around 25s. I solve similar cases much differently on kilominx and megaminx because I'm bad at mega. I'd also describe it like building the first layer in 2x2, but extended and much more enjoyable with a lot more freedom to pursue different solutions. Kilominx is a unique event that is well deserving of a spot in the WCA.
Next event will probably be redi cube, or maybe FTO, so stay tuned for that.
 
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Sub1Hour

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Hello everybody, I wanted to make this thread to explore different non-wca events, get somewhat good at them, and then share some tips and my opinion on whether they should become an official event or not. I'll be updating this post with my thoughts on each event whenever I finish a new ao1000 as well.

Best Single: 15.92 (last layer skip with no auf)
Best ao5: 23.67
Best ao12: 25.15
Best ao100: 26.97
ao1000: 36.41

First/Worst Solve: 2:18.50
Last Solve: 18.32

So the first 200 solves or so were just me getting used to the kilominx and how it's solved. I wanted to experiment with different ways of doing things efficiently and solving the last layer better. I learned a couple of OLLs and realized that there were only 3 PLLs, not however many I thought there were to begin with. At around 300 solves, I began the magnetizing process. I messed a lot of it up the first time, lost the motivation to fix it and I had a ton of schoolwork to do so I put it away for a while. When school ended, I finished the magnetization and it was instantly much better. My ao100 dropped from 41 to sub 30 in just a few days, where I remained until today, just managing to break past sub 27 at the end.

So should kilominx actually be an event? Some pros:
  • Incredibly spectator friendly, it's right in the sweet spot where it isn't too fast or slow.
  • No big entry gate, you can solve one intuitively and there are very few algs that you have to learn to be fast. (i'd go for full PLL and a few OLLs, so not much)
  • Combines the best aspects of different events (I'll talk about this later)
  • Not too similar to megaminx
Cons:
  • Would it be kibi or kilo? Or even 2x2 megaminx/dodecahedron?
  • Not great hardware
  • ???
  • Difficult to recognize CLL cases at the most advanced level
Obviously I'm a bit biased, but kilominx has so much to offer as an event in my opinion. The first layer requires efficient blockbuilding planned in inspection, the middle slice/S2L requires efficiency and a lot of lookahead, and the last layer rewards the ability to differentiate difficult cases and find creative fingertricks. This separates kilominx from megaminx because F2L skills don't help much here. In fact, if you solved a kilominx like a megaminx it would be rather inefficient and you'd probably plateau around 25s. I solve similar cases much differently on kilominx and megaminx because I'm bad at mega. I'd also describe it like building the first layer in 2x2, but extended and much more enjoyable with a lot more freedom to pursue different solutions. Kilominx is a unique event that is well deserving of a spot in the WCA.
Next event will probably be redi cube, or maybe FTO, so stay tuned for that.
2x2x3 is one I have been getting into, its pretty easy to 1-look and very fast.
 

qwr

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which brand did you use? I have Shengshou one which turns decently but often deforms out of shape
I agree that kilominx should be WCA. like I said in my "which events should be added to WCA list", competitions have no obligations to offer every WCA event (and vast majority don't) so there is no downside to adding more events other than drafting up some regulations.
 

BenChristman1

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Hello everybody, I wanted to make this thread to explore different non-wca events, get somewhat good at them, and then share some tips and my opinion on whether they should become an official event or not. I'd love to see any of the events I try here being discussed, and I'm happy to take suggestions as well. I'll be updating this post with my thoughts on each event whenever I finish a new ao1000 too.

Best Single: 15.92 (last layer skip with no auf)
Best ao5: 23.67
Best ao12: 25.15
Best ao100: 26.97
ao1000: 36.41

First/Worst Solve: 2:18.50
Last Solve: 18.32

So the first 200 solves or so were just me getting used to the kilominx and how it's solved. I wanted to experiment with different ways of doing things efficiently and solving the last layer better. I learned a couple of OLLs and realized that there were only 3 PLLs, not however many I thought there were to begin with. At around 300 solves, I began the magnetizing process. I messed a lot of it up the first time, lost the motivation to fix it and I had a ton of schoolwork to do so I put it away for a while. When school ended, I finished the magnetization and it was instantly much better. My ao100 dropped from 41 to sub 30 in just a few days, where I remained until today, just managing to break past sub 27 at the end.

So should kilominx actually be an event? Some pros:
  • Incredibly spectator friendly, it's right in the sweet spot where it isn't too fast or slow.
  • No big entry gate, you can solve one intuitively and there are very few algs that you have to learn to be fast. (i'd go for full PLL and a few OLLs, so not much)
  • Combines the best aspects of different events (I'll talk about this later)
  • Not too similar to megaminx
Cons:
  • Would it be kibi or kilo? Or even 2x2 megaminx/dodecahedron?
  • Not great hardware
  • ???
  • Difficult to recognize CLL cases at the most advanced level
Obviously I'm a bit biased, but kilominx has so much to offer as an event in my opinion. The first layer requires efficient blockbuilding planned in inspection, the middle slice/S2L requires efficiency and a lot of lookahead, and the last layer rewards the ability to differentiate difficult cases and find creative fingertricks. This separates kilominx from megaminx because F2L skills don't help much here. In fact, if you solved a kilominx like a megaminx it would be rather inefficient and you'd probably plateau around 25s. I solve similar cases much differently on kilominx and megaminx because I'm bad at mega. I'd also describe it like building the first layer in 2x2, but extended and much more enjoyable with a lot more freedom to pursue different solutions. Kilominx is a unique event that is well deserving of a spot in the WCA.
Next event will probably be redi cube, or maybe FTO, so stay tuned for that.
I think that I might try this too, but probably not nearly as many solves. This is a great idea, and I look forward to seeing your results in other non-WCA events!
 

BenChristman1

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I'm going to use this post to document my progress on non-WCA events. I'll just edit it whenever I do a new event.

Cube: Qiyi (stickered)
Best single: 2.151
Best ao5: 8.149
Best ao12: 9.631
ao100: 12.555
Generated By csTimer on 2020-07-04 (solving from 2020-06-17 16:08:06 to 2020-07-04 12:47:05)
avg of 100: 12.555

Time List:
1. 10.453 R2 D R2 D F2 U' F2 D F2 U @2020-06-17 16:08:06
2. (25.086) U R2 F2 D' F2 D2 R2 U R2 D F2 @2020-06-17 16:08:31
3. (25.717) F2 U' R2 D2 F2 D' R2 D2 R2 @2020-06-17 16:09:10
4. 22.775 U2 R2 D' R2 U' R2 F2 U' @2020-06-17 16:09:49
5. 11.421 U' R2 F2 U F2 U' R2 U R2 U' @2020-06-17 16:10:33
6. 18.409 R2 U' F2 U' F2 U2 R2 U' F2 U @2020-06-17 16:10:56
7. 18.121 U2 R2 U' R2 U F2 U' R2 U F2 U' R2 @2020-06-17 16:11:31
8. 12.860 D2 R2 U R2 F2 D F2 D' R2 @2020-06-17 16:56:05
9. 13.283 R2 U2 R2 F2 U2 D R2 D R2 @2020-06-17 16:56:28
10. 17.695 D R2 U R2 U2 R2 D' F2 @2020-06-17 16:56:50
11. 11.096 R2 U2 R2 D R2 U' F2 @2020-06-17 16:57:20
12. (2.151) U D F2 U F2 @2020-06-17 16:57:42
13. (26.122) R2 U R2 U' R2 U F2 U R2 @2020-06-17 16:58:03
14. 15.643 U R2 U R2 U2 R2 F2 D F2 D2 R2 U' R2 @2020-06-17 16:58:42
15. 15.643 R2 U' F2 U F2 D2 R2 U' F2 D2 R2 @2020-06-17 16:58:49
16. 7.196 U R2 D' R2 U F2 D' F2 D R2 U @2020-06-17 16:59:59
17. 15.551 R2 U' R2 U F2 D2 R2 D' R2 U F2 U2 @2020-06-17 17:00:21
18. 11.633 R2 D' R2 F2 U F2 U' @2020-06-17 17:03:58
19. 16.779 R2 U' F2 U F2 D2 R2 U' F2 U2 R2 @2020-06-17 17:04:23
20. 10.863 U2 R2 D' F2 D' F2 U2 R2 @2020-06-17 17:04:57
21. 17.228 U F2 D' R2 U F2 U' R2 D F2 D2 @2020-06-17 17:05:20
22. 15.605 U F2 U' R2 U' F2 D2 R2 U R2 U' R2 @2020-06-17 17:06:04
23. 9.449 U2 R2 U' F2 U' F2 U2 R2 D R2 U F2 @2020-06-17 17:06:47
24. 11.020 F2 U' R2 D F2 U @2020-06-17 17:07:07
25. 10.484 R2 D2 R2 U' F2 R2 U' @2020-06-17 17:07:29
26. 11.740 R2 F2 U R2 U F2 U2 R2 U F2 D2 @2020-06-24 10:02:22
27. (25.202) R2 U R2 U2 F2 D F2 U' F2 @2020-06-24 10:02:47
28. 24.250 U2 R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 @2020-06-24 10:04:10
29. 8.131 U2 R2 U F2 D' R2 D R2 D' F2 D F2 @2020-06-24 10:04:49
30. 15.995 F2 U F2 U2 R2 D' F2 U2 R2 D R2 @2020-06-24 10:05:32
31. (5.291) D' F2 U F2 U2 R2 D F2 @2020-06-24 10:06:30
32. 14.713 R2 F2 U' F2 U R2 U2 F2 D' @2020-06-24 10:06:51
33. 8.831 F2 U R2 U' F2 D2 R2 D F2 D F2 @2020-06-24 10:07:19
34. 6.756 R2 U R2 U2 F2 U R2 U2 F2 U' R2 U F2 @2020-06-24 10:07:49
35. 8.862 U R2 U F2 U2 R2 U' F2 U2 R2 U @2020-06-24 10:08:10
36. 12.268+ U R2 F2 U R2 D F2 D2 R2 D' R2 U' R2 @2020-06-24 10:10:25
37. 13.270 U2 R2 F2 U F2 U' F2 U R2 U' R2 U @2020-06-24 10:10:55
38. (4.622) R2 D' R2 U F2 D' F2 U @2020-06-24 10:11:24
39. 8.961 U' R2 F2 U' R2 U F2 D' @2020-06-24 10:11:43
40. 9.229 U2 R2 U R2 D' R2 D2 F2 U F2 U @2020-06-24 10:12:06
41. 16.425 D2 R2 U F2 U' R2 D F2 U F2 @2020-06-24 10:12:31
42. 20.457 U2 R2 F2 U R2 D' R2 D2 F2 U F2 D' R2 @2020-06-24 10:13:03
43. 9.431 R2 U' R2 U2 D' R2 U2 @2020-06-24 10:13:34
44. 13.524 U F2 D R2 U2 F2 U' R2 D' R2 U R2 @2020-06-24 10:13:57
45. 11.409 U R2 D2 R2 D2 F2 D' F2 D R2 @2020-06-24 10:14:25
46. 9.611 U F2 U' R2 D' R2 D F2 D' F2 D2 @2020-06-24 10:14:52
47. 14.921 U' F2 D' F2 D R2 D' F2 D F2 @2020-06-24 10:15:21
48. 13.413 U2 R2 F2 D' R2 D2 F2 D F2 D' @2020-06-24 10:15:50
49. 8.539 R2 D2 R2 D' R2 D' F2 @2020-06-24 10:16:16
50. 24.642 U R2 U2 R2 F2 D R2 D2 F2 D' @2020-06-24 10:16:40
51. 6.055 D F2 D F2 D F2 U2 @2020-07-02 20:07:00
52. (DNF(4.793)) U D' R2 U D2 F2 R2 @2020-07-02 20:07:13
53. 15.371 R2 U R2 U2 F2 U F2 D2 R2 U @2020-07-02 20:07:32
54. 8.464 R2 U2 R2 U' D2 R2 F2 @2020-07-02 20:07:53
55. 6.843 R2 F2 U F2 U2 R2 U' R2 U R2 D' @2020-07-02 20:08:09
56. 10.970 F2 U F2 D' R2 U2 F2 D F2 D R2 @2020-07-02 20:08:25
57. 7.101 R2 F2 U R2 U2 F2 U F2 U2 R2 U' R2 @2020-07-02 20:08:45
58. 14.670 U F2 U F2 U' F2 D F2 U2 F2 @2020-07-02 20:09:00
59. 10.774 D' R2 D F2 U D R2 @2020-07-02 20:09:21
60. 6.492 R2 D R2 F2 U' F2 D F2 D' R2 D' @2020-07-02 20:09:39
61. 16.856 U R2 U R2 F2 D2 F2 D F2 U F2 U' R2 @2020-07-02 20:09:55
62. 17.246 R2 U R2 U R2 U' F2 U F2 U' R2 D R2 @2020-07-02 20:10:20
63. 8.251 R2 U' R2 F2 U R2 D' R2 U R2 @2020-07-02 20:10:45
64. 6.243 U D F2 U' F2 U2 R2 U' F2 @2020-07-02 20:11:03
65. 18.168 U R2 F2 U' F2 U2 D' F2 U2 @2020-07-02 20:11:16
66. 9.419 U' R2 F2 U' F2 D2 R2 D' R2 U @2020-07-02 20:11:41
67. 6.776 R2 U R2 U R2 U2 F2 D' F2 U' F2 U F2 @2020-07-02 20:11:59
68. 24.802 U F2 U R2 U R2 D2 @2020-07-02 20:12:14
69. 12.928 U R2 U2 D R2 D R2 @2020-07-02 20:15:47
70. 13.796 D' R2 U' R2 F2 U' R2 D2 F2 @2020-07-02 20:16:14
71. 10.915 U2 F2 U' R2 D2 F2 U' R2 U2 F2 @2020-07-02 20:16:38
72. 13.370 U R2 U F2 D' F2 U F2 D' R2 D2 @2020-07-02 20:16:58
73. 8.091 R2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 D' R2 D' F2 @2020-07-02 20:18:03
74. 8.129 R2 D R2 F2 U F2 D' F2 D2 @2020-07-02 20:18:17
75. 14.074 R2 U R2 U' F2 U2 R2 D R2 U R2 @2020-07-02 20:18:34
76. 19.888 R2 F2 U' F2 U2 D' R2 U' F2 D' R2 @2020-07-04 12:39:00
77. (5.283) U R2 U' R2 U' R2 F2 D2 F2 U' R2 D2 @2020-07-04 12:39:29
78. 7.073 U R2 U' F2 U F2 U2 R2 D' F2 U F2 @2020-07-04 12:39:44
79. 8.474 D2 R2 U F2 U' R2 D R2 U @2020-07-04 12:39:59
80. 18.648 U F2 U' F2 U R2 U2 F2 D' R2 D @2020-07-04 12:40:15
81. 9.296 U2 F2 U' R2 D R2 D @2020-07-04 12:40:41
82. 15.730 R2 F2 U R2 U' R2 U F2 D F2 @2020-07-04 12:40:59
83. 11.785 U R2 U' R2 D2 R2 F2 D F2 U2 @2020-07-04 12:41:22
84. 11.959 U' R2 U' R2 U2 F2 D' F2 D2 F2 @2020-07-04 12:41:42
85. 9.524 U R2 U F2 U2 R2 D F2 D @2020-07-04 12:42:03
86. 15.241 U R2 U F2 D R2 U' F2 D @2020-07-04 12:42:22
87. 7.751 U R2 U' R2 D' R2 U R2 @2020-07-04 12:42:48
88. 5.836 U2 F2 R2 U2 D' @2020-07-04 12:43:04
89. 11.461 U R2 D' F2 D2 R2 U R2 D @2020-07-04 12:43:18
90. (4.584) R2 D F2 U F2 U' R2 D R2 U' R2 @2020-07-04 12:43:39
91. 17.786 R2 U R2 U' R2 D' R2 U F2 @2020-07-04 12:43:52
92. 11.068 U F2 U R2 D' F2 D R2 U' D2 @2020-07-04 12:44:17
93. 5.294 U R2 F2 U2 F2 D' R2 D' R2 D' @2020-07-04 12:44:43
94. 18.948 U2 F2 U R2 D' F2 U' R2 @2020-07-04 12:44:56
95. 13.826 U F2 U F2 U R2 D2 F2 D R2 @2020-07-04 12:45:25
96. 10.297 R2 F2 U F2 D' F2 U R2 D' R2 U2 F2 @2020-07-04 12:45:48
97. 9.981 U R2 U R2 U D2 F2 U' F2 @2020-07-04 12:46:08
98. 9.250 U D R2 D R2 F2 U' R2 @2020-07-04 12:46:25
99. 15.833 U2 R2 U' F2 U' R2 U2 F2 D F2 U @2020-07-04 12:46:42
100. 10.619 U D2 R2 F2 U F2 U2 R2 @2020-07-04 12:47:05

Pros of 2x2x3:
  • Once you figured out how to solve it, it is very easy and a lot of fun. I only know 3 algorithms (adj-adj, adj-diag, diag-diag), but it is still a really quick event.
  • Adding onto the algorithms, you realistically only need to know these 3. You just have to do the adj-diag alg for a top adjacent swap or a top diagonal swap. It would be really easy to learn algs for these cases, though.
  • There are no cuboids in the WCA, so it could be a potentially good first cuboid event.
Cons of 2x2x3:
  • It could be considered spectator-friendly, but in some ways, it's not because somebody could easily get sub-10, or even sub-5 within a few weeks/months, so it might even be too fast.
  • Not great hardware, but it can be good after setup.
  • It could be argued that the puzzle is too intuitive, which makes it really easy to solve.
In my opinion, this is a good event to be added to the WCA, but it could be that I prefer fast and more intuitive events as opposed to longer and more strenuous events. I think that it is very easy to get good at, which makes it a good thing to add to get more competitors into cubing, and make new competitors feel like they are more of a "cuber" because they are doing more events. Square-1 knowledge definitely does help with this puzzle, but it could also be said vice-versa, that this puzzle could help a person learn squan.
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