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New alg for V using T

whauk

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you can save a move:
L'U'LUxUR'U'R'FR2U'R'U'RUR'F'lU'L'UL
i think this is nice for teaching full PLL to beginners.
i remember some people i taught having a hard time learning that R' U R' d'... alg
and for them its still faster than using Y+U
 

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this reminds me of the J perm conjugate F perms. they're ok, at first. there are many algs that are better than it. another example is the E perm. there is an easy to remember one (R2 U sexy sexy sexy one), and then the l U' R' D one. not really easy to remember until you get the tricks down pat, but its WAY faster.

as for the interesting factor, it might be interesting for a beginner trying to learn easy to remember PLLs.
 

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Oh darn I had my hopes up here, I love the F that is the conjugated T perm, and was hoping for a good V like it, but that's just too big and awkward. someone else posted a similar one using just R's U's and the Tperm the other day, but it too was massive.

Still, thanks for trying.
 

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For V from the back you can always do L' U L' U' y' R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F
It can be fast if you do the first U' with right index finger push. Well I don't use it cos I can't do it fast nor can I recognise V perm from the back easily, but it has potential
 

ninjabob7

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I think there's nothing wrong with the normal V-perm. R' U R' d'... is one of my favorite PLLs. Anyone else agree?
 

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i think this is nice for teaching full PLL to beginners.
i remember some people i taught having a hard time learning that R' U R' d'... alg
and for them its still faster than using Y+U

This sort of approach is horrible in the long run. They are going to need a good alg eventually, they should learn something good in the first place.
 

EVH

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Just checked the Wiki at the V perm and found a nice looking one that is 2 gen R' U R' U' y z' U' R U' R' U2 y' R' U' R U R x

Besides the rotations looks nice

Too many rotations for my liking.
 

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This sort of approach is horrible in the long run. They are going to need a good alg eventually, they should learn something good in the first place.

I somewhat agree. Teaching someone a bad alg because it's easy to memorize just means they'll be reluctant to learn a faster one. It's also a waste of their time in the long run.
 
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