# My Quest To Become Color Neutral

## Color Neutral Gang?

• Total voters
13

#### Micah Morrison

##### Member
If you've been following me for enough time, you've seen it before, I have attempted to become color neutral many times but have lost motivation on all of those times. But this time I will post progress on this thread each day I do an ao50. Since there's a quarantine, this is the perfect time to become full color neutral, and there are absolutely no excuses for me to stop trying. We all need to do it, and there won't be much better of a time to work on than now. My approach is that each day I will do an ao50 with red/orange cross and each day I will do an ao50 with green/blue cross (I'm already dual CN).The reason I'm not just mixing all four cross colors together in a single session is that I'm considerably faster with red and orange cross than with green and blue cross. Also, it helps me focus more on the color recognition for each set of opposite colors. My global average for 3x3 is 8.7 seconds, so that will be my goal for the colors I am working on adding. Ideally every day I'll do an ao50 with each set of colors but there will be some days where I won't have the time and there will be some days where I have extra time and might do an extra ao50, but for the sake of simplicity, each ao50 will be considered a day in my progress.

got around a 9.6 ao100 and a 9.4ish ao50
got my ao50 down to 9.25 at some point, getting close (-0.428)
only did about 30 solves. Averages stayed the same.

108 solves, average: 10.117
Solves: 100 avg: 10.011
solves: 170 avg: 9.747
solves: 103 avg: 9.815
solves: 102 avg: 9.639
solves: 86 avg: 9.600
solves: 61 avg: 9.470
solves: 45 avg: 9.606
solves: 103 avg: 9.358 + orange cross PB ao50 9.052!
solves: 124 avg: 9.297 + Orange Cross PB ao50 9.003 (why)? + Orange Cross PB 8.890 + 20 sub 10's in a row!
solves: 100 (actually more because some of the times got reset) avg: 9.269 + 6.281 PB single!!
solves: 85 avg: 9.133 + 8.980 PB ao50 and 9.046 PB ao100!

ao150: idk because they got reset but probably around 10.8
ao150: 10.302
ao150: 10.095
ao150: 10.292
solves: 156 avg: 10.221
solves:111 avg: 9.735
solves: 60 avg: 9.636
solves: 100 avg: 9.715
solves: 78 avg: 9.511
solves: 89 avg: 9.540
solves: 66 avg: 9.228
solves: 77 avg 9.668

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#### Micah Morrison

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Well, after three days my green and blue cross has seen improvement. The most recent ao50 I did was super inconsistent though. The average was 10.667 but it felt like I would always either get 9's (occasionally 8's) or 11's or worse. My red/orange cross hasn't seen much improvement over the past three days. I'm hoping that will change soon. I also hope I can get both averages under 9 seconds in the next 30 days.

#### brododragon

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Wow! You're doing pretty well.

#### Micah Morrison

##### Member
well... on day 4 my averages were higher for both red/orange cross and green/blue cross. I learned that I think I need to reset my sessions after each ao50 because I see my current ao50 or 100 and get unmotivated which leads to more bad times. Also, I'm keeping track of ao50s on paper and on here anyway.

#### Kickflip1993

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You should check out DaPuzzles instagram account. He is doing a green cross challenge there to get more people colour neutral. They have like 20 people already

#### Micah Morrison

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since I didn;t have much to do today, I decided to get ahead a day since I'm doing Cubing at Home tomorrow. In my green/blue cross ao50 I decided to try slow turning, and, not only was it the best average I;ve done so far for green/blue cross, but it also felt much more consistent than previous averages. So I think for the net week or so I'll slow down my turning a little bit and focus on smoothness and lookahead rather than relying on TPS to get decent times.

#### Micah Morrison

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just did a red/orange cross slow turning ao50. It was my best average so far by about 0.04, but also, there was one stretch of solves where it seemed like every solve I would do something stupid like insert an f2l pair in wrong orientation, or with a last layer corner, etc. And during that stretch of solves it seemed like every solve I locked up on the PLL. Then I got a few sub 8's and decided not to do it anymore. But this is motivating because I feel like if I do an ao50 without doing too many stupid things I can get much better times. For reference of the stretch of bad solves, my session mean was about 10.6 about 20 or 25 solves through the average and the ao50 was 9.936. Also, here's the time trend

#### Micah Morrison

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ok, I think I've decided that I'm just going to stick with red/orange cross only until I get three consecutive sub 9 ao50's because I feel like switching between sets of colors isn't helping much. So I'll do 2 ao50's every day with red/orange cross and still count them as two separate "days". Then I'll come back and do green/blue cross.

#### Micah Morrison

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ik this is my 4th post in a row on this thread, but I've decided to change my approach to becoming color neutral AGAIN. I'll be just doing one color at a time because I slowed down my turning a certain amount and my red cross lookahead could keep up but my orange cross lookahead usually couldn't. I'll basically be starting over on this quest but hopefully all the solves I did with green, orange, and blue cross will help me when I get to those colors.

#### PetrusQuber

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ik this is my 4th post in a row on this thread, but I've decided to change my approach to becoming color neutral AGAIN. I'll be just doing one color at a time because I slowed down my turning a certain amount and my red cross lookahead could keep up but my orange cross lookahead usually couldn't. I'll basically be starting over on this quest but hopefully all the solves I did with green, orange, and blue cross will help me when I get to those colors.
Well as the OP of this thread, you’re entitled to quadruple posting . They were also all pretty far apart.

#### DerpBoiMoon

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At what spped should slow turning be on?

#### ketchupcuber

##### Member
If you've been following me for enough time, you've seen it before, I have attempted to become color neutral many times but have lost motivation on all of those times. But this time I will post progress on this thread each day I do an ao50. Since there's a quarantine, this is the perfect time to become full color neutral, and there are absolutely no excuses for me to stop trying. We all need to do it, and there won't be much better of a time to work on than now. My approach is that each day I will do an ao50 with red/orange cross and each day I will do an ao50 with green/blue cross (I'm already dual CN).The reason I'm not just mixing all four cross colors together in a single session is that I'm considerably faster with red and orange cross than with green and blue cross. Also, it helps me focus more on the color recognition for each set of opposite colors. My global average for 3x3 is 8.7 seconds, so that will be my goal for the colors I am working on adding. Ideally every day I'll do an ao50 with each set of colors but there will be some days where I won't have the time and there will be some days where I have extra time and might do an extra ao50, but for the sake of simplicity, each ao50 will be considered a day in my progress.

ao50: 9.771
ao50: 9.343 (-0.428)
ao50: 9.586 (+0.243)
I dont think you can say we all need to do it because the current world champion is not colour neutral. CN has pros and cons its not clear cut

#### Micah Morrison

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At what spped should slow turning be on?
I personally, when doing slow turning solves, like to turn as fast as I can while still looking ahead, so, if I see my next pair while I'm solving a pair, I might speed up the turning a little bit, and if I don't see anything, I might slow down a bit. Also, when I get to the last slot, I just turn as fast as I can

#### Micah Morrison

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I dont think you can say we all need to do it because the current world champion is not colour neutral. CN has pros and cons its not clear cut
yeah but Feliks Zemdegs who is the world record holder for 3x3 average, and he has been holding 3x3 world records for a very long time is color neutral. Also, it seems like 90+% of the top level 3x3 solvers are color neutral. And, wafter becoming color neutral, you would get 3x as many lucky scrambles and 3x less unlucky scrambles compared to dual CN. Also, can you list any cons of becoming color neutral?

#### Alex Moscibroda

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CN is great and all, but sometimes it can make deciding a cross color hard. If you are only white, you know which color to choose immediately.

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CN is great and all, but sometimes it can make deciding a cross color hard. If you are only white, you know which color to choose immediately.
Sometimes, deciding a good cross or XCross is the mark between WR single or just a tryhard.

#### Micah Morrison

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CN is great and all, but sometimes it can make deciding a cross color hard. If you are only white, you know which color to choose immediately.
to be honest that just sounds like a lazy excuse to not become color neutral that I used for way too long. I mean, how often do use ALL your inspection on white cross?

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#### ProStar

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CN is great and all, but sometimes it can make deciding a cross color hard. If you are only white, you know which color to choose immediately.
That's only if you aren't CN. Once you are CN, it's easy to pick a cross quickly, plus inspection is easier because it's usually a good cross. Watch J Perm's vid on it

#### ketchupcuber

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yeah but Feliks Zemdegs who is the world record holder for 3x3 average, and he has been holding 3x3 world records for a very long time is color neutral. Also, it seems like 90+% of the top level 3x3 solvers are color neutral. And, wafter becoming color neutral, you would get 3x as many lucky scrambles and 3x less unlucky scrambles compared to dual CN. Also, can you list any cons of becoming color neutral?
if you immediately no which cross colour to start on then you can plan more pairs in inspection also about 90% of top solvers are colour neutral this is completely false. Of the top 10 people at the most recent worlds last year 4/10 were not CN i think that looking at worlds is a better way at judging rankings than records because everyone gets the same scrambles so there is less luck