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My Journey to Sub 10 CFOP - DerpBoiMoon

Should I post an example solve to show you how i do things to get constructive criticism?


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DerpBoiMoon

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I based this on @PetrusQuber 's Sub-8 Petrus thread.

Below is my progress. I suppose I might get it at the end of the year (I hope!)
Yes, I missed a few weeks.

Dates: 30 January --------> 9 February (I know it's an extended week
Current Average: 20-23
Current PB Single: 14.82
Goal Average: 19-21
Goal Single: 13.xx
PLLS: 19/21 need to learn Gb and Gd
OLLS: almost half
ao5=20.77 (Sub 20 fail :()
1. (19.08) B' R2 L' U' R' U D F' R2 F L2 U2 R2 F' R2 D2 F R2 B2 U'
2. (25.92) D2 B2 L2 U2 B2 L D2 B2 D2 L U F' U' R' F' L B L B'
3. 20.10 D' B R D F D' R2 B U2 F D2 B' L2 F D2 F' D2 L'
4. 22.15 L2 F2 L2 B2 D2 B' D2 R2 F2 L2 D' L' U F2 U2 R F' R B' L'
5. 20.06 L' U B L' B D2 B' U' F' L' F2 U2 L U2 R2 F2 B2 R' F2 L'
ao5=20.98 (Sub 20 fail AGAIN :()
1. 21.42 B2 R2 U2 F2 D2 B U2 R2 F L2 F2 U' R' F2 L2 F2 L2 U' L B'
2. (22.00) U2 R' F' U2 B R L' D B' F2 U2 F2 B2 L2 D B2 D' F2 R2 L2
3. (18.88) F2 R2 F2 R2 D L2 U' R2 F2 U' B2 R' F' U' L' F' D2 B' U' L2 F2
4. 20.18 D2 L2 D2 L B2 R D2 B2 D2 R2 F2 R' F L F' D B' D' R D' U
5. 21.34 R' B D' L B R' L D R' F2 R' U2 L U2 L' F2 R B2 R2 B2
ao12=20.87 (WHYYYYY)
1. 22.28 F' U' R' F L F U' B' U L U2 F2 R' B2 R' U2 D2 L2 B2 U2
2. 20.72 U' F U' B2 L2 U2 L2 D' L2 D' B2 U F2 U' R' U2 F R' D2 F2 D'
3. 18.21 U2 L2 B2 U B2 D2 R2 U' R2 U2 B2 R2 F L' D' U' L2 B2 D' L2 B2
4. 21.18 L2 F' B2 U B' R U' D R D2 F2 L' F2 L' F2 U2 L2 B2 U2 L2 D
5. 23.38 U2 D' B' U R F U' L F' U L2 B2 U2 R2 F2 U' F2 U' L2 U' R
6. 22.10 L' U F R' U R2 U2 L' F' D F2 D R2 U L2 F2 L2 U R2 L2
7. 19.78 B2 U L2 F2 U' B2 D' F2 L2 F2 D L' F L2 R2 F U2 R U
8. (24.34) D' L2 B D2 U2 R2 B D2 B2 U2 B' U L2 F2 U' B' L' D' R' U'
9. 19.68 D' F2 U' R2 U L2 F2 R2 B2 F2 U R' D2 R2 D' L U B' U B'
10. (17.92) R' U2 B2 U L2 D B2 U' R2 U' L' D' U' B' R D L' D
11. 21.52 L' F2 L' U2 R' D2 R' F2 R B2 R D' B2 F R D L2 F2 D2 F'
12. 19.84 R' U B2 U2 L2 F D2 F D2 R2 F L2 F' L' U' L' R B F2 U
ao5=19.56(!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
1. (22.77) F2 U2 R B2 D2 U2 L' R' F2 L2 D L2 D' U' R2 B' U L' U2
2. 19.74 B L' D B2 L' U2 B F2 R2 L2 U2 R2 L2 B2 D' R2 L2 F2 D B
3. (17.53) U2 F' R2 F' L2 U2 L2 D2 B2 L2 B' R' D' F U2 L R D' U' F L
4. 18.90 F D' R' F U D' L2 F' R B2 R' B2 D2 F2 R B2 R L2 U2 R
5. 20.04 R' D2 R' D2 R2 D2 L2 B2 R U2 F2 U R B U B2 L2 D2 B D B'

Dates: 10 February --------> 17 February
Current Average: 20-22
Current PB Single: 14.82
Goal Average: 19-21

PLLS: 19/21 need to learn Gb and Gd
OLLS: almost half

Might start doing look ahead. I don't have much time to practice cause of school

Cube: GTS3M

Splits

Cross: 2-3
F2L: 8-10
OLL: 1-3
PLL: 2-4

Do you guys think these are OK plls? I'm not that fast so I don't think I'll be able to find flaws in them.

Ua (R U' R U) R U (R U' R' U') R2 1.74
Ub R2 U (R U R' U') R' U' (R' U R') 1.72
H (M2' U M2') U2 (M2' U M2') 2.84
Z (M2' U M2' U) (M' U2) (M2' U2 M') [U2] 2.53
Aa x (R' U R') D2 (R U' R') D2 R2 x' 2.41
Ab x R2' D2 (R U R') D2 (R U' R) x' 2.72
E x' (R U' R' D) (R U R' D') (R U R' D) (R U' R' D') x 3.12
T (R U R' U') (R' F R2 U') R' U' (R U R' F') 1.77
Ja (L' U' L F) (L' U' L U) L F' L2' U L 2.30
Jb (R U R' F') (R U R' U') R' F R2 U' R' [U'] 1.83
Ra (R U R' F') (R U2' R' U2') (R' F R U) (R U2' R') [U'] 2.53
Rb (R' U2 R U2') R' F (R U R' U') R' F' R2 [U'] 2.72
F (R' U' F')(R U R' U')(R' F R2 U')(R' U' R U)(R' U R) 3.12
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@WarriorCatCuber 's thread for other peoples journey/quests
 
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OreKehStrah

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I would personally recommend doing three things in this order:

1.Make sure your fingertricks are good so you don’t have to go back and fix them later. I’m doing this now and it sucks. Don’t be lazy on this step.
2. Make sure you learn good algs for every PLL and OLL as you go. Replace any of your bad algs now. I’d recommend seeing what algs the best Cubers use, and deciding which one works best for you by timing the algs. Again, you don’t want to have to relearn algs later.
3.If you only solve on one cross, consider starting to solve dual cross with the opposite color, or if you solve dual cross consider color neutrality.This will give you the benefit of taking advantage of easy cases.You can also be practicing improving your fingertricks and algs while you practice DC or CN solves. This is optional of course, and you don’t need to solve DC or CN to be world class, as shown by the 2019 worlds podium.
Hope this helps!
 

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Good luck! What algs do you know currently(i.e PLL, OLL)? If you're having big pauses in F2L, I'd recommend trying to turn a little slower, and look for different pieces as you're solving the current pair. That's what I did that sent my from 20-21 to sub-20.

I entered your splits into Feliks' solve evaluator. Apparently you have good OLL and slightly above average PLL. According to this, your Cross+F2L is a little slower than normal, but there are no big gaps.


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Good luck! What algs do you know currently(i.e PLL, OLL)? If you're having big pauses in F2L, I'd recommend trying to turn a little slower, and look for different pieces as you're solving the current pair. That's what I did that sent my from 20-21 to sub-20.

I entered your splits into Feliks' solve evaluator. Apparently you have good OLL and slightly above average PLL. According to this, your Cross+F2L is a little slower than normal, but there are no big gaps.


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I know all the cubeskills pll except gb and gd.
I do two look oll and know almost half of full oll
I thinks it my F2L though

seems 100% of 8 people want example solve ok, here goes
nothing
 

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As someone slower than you, I will critique your solve:

1. Your indentation sucks

(ok lets start with the actual solve :p)

The cross wasn't great. The movecount was fine, but rotations in the cross is awful. Starting with the same orientation(white bottom blue front), this cross is better:

F U' R2 D R' F R D L F' L' (This still isn't awesome, but whatever. It also makes a pair unintentionally :p)

Your first pair was fine, an alternative option would've been the red/blue. They're both about the same though.

Second pair was good, but it probably would've been a little better to insert normally and not with a sledge. Still fine though.

Third par should've been done with a back slot to avoid a double rotation. Like this:

U' L U' L' U2 y' L' U' L

You shouldn't have rotated for the final pair, but instead used a couple F moves. Like this:

U' L' U L U' F U F'

The yellow cross was fine, but I personally find this alg faster:

f R U R' U' f'

Both work just fine though. It's just personal preference.


That's the same OLL I use, so can't complain :p


T-Perm FTW


I like the MU U-Perms, but plenty of people use the RU. They're just as good, just personal preference.



I also did an example solve with this scramble. Here's what I did:

x2 // Inspection
F U' R2 D R' F R D L F' L' // Cross
R' U' R U2 L' U L // 1st Pair
R' U R U' R' U R // 2nd Pair
U L U' L' y' L' U2 L // 3rd Pair
U2 R' U R U R' U R U' R' U R // 4th Pair
// Cross Skip
U' R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' // OLL [2nd Look]
U2 x (R' U R') D2 (R U' R') D2 R2 x' U' // PLL+AUF



So there you go :)
 
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The cross wasn't great. The movecount was fine, but rotations in the cross is awful. Starting with the same orientation(white bottom blue front), this cross is better:

F U' R2 D R' F R D L F' L' (This still isn't awesome, but whatever. It also makes a pair unintentionally :p)
I prefer this solution:
y z2 L' F' R' F D L2 u2

You also could do this for a x-cross in the BL-slot:
y z2 L' F' R' F D L2 u' L U' L' D'
 

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Nice cross. That might be a little better than what I found lol

Good first pair. Nice use of the back slot!

Good second pair, you definitely picked the best one

Third pair was fine. When you get to the higher levels, maybe try to always know what's in your back slots, that way you won't have to rotate. I probably would've used an F move solution, as opposed to rotating, but what you did was probably just as good

Cool last pair. It's actually a little better than wha I do lol

I don't know if this was intentional or not, but good job preserving EO. I usually can't do that

Nothing abnormal in OLL & PLL


Nice solve overall. Great job!


Here's my example solve:

z2 y' // Inspection

L' F R2 F R U' L' B L // Cross

U2 L U' L' U F' U' F // 1st Pair

L' U L2 F' L' F // 2nd Pair

U2 L U2 L' U2 L U' L' // 3rd Pair

y U' R U' R' U2 F' U' F // 4th Pair

U f R U R' U' f' // Yellow Cross

U R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 R // Yellow Corners

U' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' // T-Perm


Do you guys think these are OK plls? I'm not that fast so I don't think I'll be able to find flaws in them.
I mentioned earlier that the RU U-Perms are just as good as the MU ones, and that it's personal preference.

That's the same H-Perm I use

I use a different Z-Perm, but I believe that one is popular as well

Both A-Perms are good, I believe it's the normal one

E-Perm seems fine

J-Perms are fine

R-perms are good

F-Perm is fine


I judged these as algs by themselves, not necessarily against other algs. So while these are good algs, it's possible that there are better ones out there(I'm really not sure though)
 
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F U’ R2 D R' F R D L F' L' (This still isn't awesome, but whatever. It also makes a pair unintentionally :p)
having bad Finger tricks for cross is probably MUCH better than an 11 move cross. If you want a good cross go watch all of jperms vids.
 
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Good luck! What algs do you know currently(i.e PLL, OLL)? If you're having big pauses in F2L, I'd recommend trying to turn a little slower, and look for different pieces as you're solving the current pair. That's what I did that sent my from 20-21 to sub-20.

I entered your splits into Feliks' solve evaluator. Apparently you have good OLL and slightly above average PLL. According to this, your Cross+F2L is a little slower than normal, but there are no big gaps.


View attachment 11307
Can you send me a link to his solve evaluator?
 

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