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if you immediately no which cross colour to start on then you can plan more pairs in inspection also about 90% of top solvers are colour neutral this is completely false. Of the top 10 people at the most recent worlds last year 4/10 were not CN i think that looking at worlds is a better way at judging rankings than records because everyone gets the same scrambles so there is less luck
alright, fine, that makes sense, but I bet if you asked them if they could become color neutral without having to put in the effort they would say yes except for maybe Sean Villanueva. That's still not going to stop me fro becoming color neutral..
 

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if you immediately no which cross colour to start on then you can plan more pairs in inspection
That's not true. The easier cross you get, the more pairs you plan. It only takes a second or two to pick a cross color, and no one uses all of inspection anyway

bout 90% of top solvers are colour neutral this is completely false. Of the top 10 people at the most recent worlds last year 4/10 were not CN i think that looking at worlds is a better way at judging rankings than records because everyone gets the same scrambles so there is less luck
That's just seeing who gets less effected my nerves.
 

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alright, fine, that makes sense, but I bet if you asked them if they could become color neutral without having to put in the effort they would say yes except for maybe Sean Villanueva. That's still not going to stop me fro becoming color neutral..
i completely agree i would be CN if i could instantly switch but i feel that i could use that time to practise something else
 

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alright, fine, that makes sense, but I bet if you asked them if they could become color neutral without having to put in the effort they would say yes except for maybe Sean Villanueva. That's still not going to stop me fro becoming color neutral..
i completely agree i would be CN if i could instantly switch but i feel that i could use that time to practise something else
 

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That's not true. The easier cross you get, the more pairs you plan. It only takes a second or two to pick a cross color, and no one uses all of inspection anyway
CN only saves one move and most people use inspection up to twelve seconds to make sure they dont overun if we had 30 seconds inspection people would use 28 secs because the more inspection the better im not saying CN is bad just there are pros and cons.


That's just seeing who gets less effected my nerves.
true the only real way to rank would be ao 1 million with all the same scrambles at home
 

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Well, to reply to your points:

Yes, while CN technically only saves 1 move on average, it's a big difference. That 1 move can be the difference between planning cross and planning cross+1. A one move less cross can mean a bunch. Also, have you ever been to a comp? Because in the one I went to, I had 1 person take over 15 and 2 people take 12-15, and I judged all day long.

true the only real way to rank would be ao 1 million with all the same scrambles at home
There's always nerves at a comp, just like in any sport. But the final round of a world championship and a normal comp have WAYYYYYYYYYY different nerve levels, and in world finals it usually comes down to who controlled their nerves better. Just ask @DGCubes about his Pyraminx win at Nationals a few years ago(not to diss Daniel, he's amazing at pyra and I couldn't come close)
 

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Well, to reply to your points:

Yes, while CN technically only saves 1 move on average, it's a big difference. That 1 move can be the difference between planning cross and planning cross+1. A one move less cross can mean a bunch. Also, have you ever been to a comp? Because in the one I went to, I had 1 person take over 15 and 2 people take 12-15, and I judged all day long.



There's always nerves at a comp, just like in any sport. But the final round of a world championship and a normal comp have WAYYYYYYYYYY different nerve levels, and in world finals it usually comes down to who controlled their nerves better. Just ask @DGCubes about his Pyraminx win at Nationals a few years ago(not to diss Daniel, he's amazing at pyra and I couldn't come close)
i have been to comps and when i judge most people took like on average 12 seconds of course there will always be people who use 3 seconds of inspection but usually they're slow
 

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Yes, while CN technically only saves 1 move on average, it's a big difference
CN saves more than one move, because you can pick an easy XCross or a better first and second (and maybe even third) pair. It also allows you to see full cross easier and makes planning F2L easier, making cross and F2L pre-planned and therefore more efficient.
 

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CN saves more than one move, because you can pick an easy XCross or a better first and second (and maybe even third) pair. It also allows you to see full cross easier and makes planning F2L easier, making cross and F2L pre-planned and therefore more efficient.
lol read the rest of my point

i know that it has more benefits than just one move but if you look at move count it does save one move
That's deceptive though, because while 1 move difference is nothing, in this case it means a lot
 
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