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[Help Thread] Megaminx Discussion and Help

kubesolver

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Suits it make sense to be colour neutral for star but always do same last layer?
 
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I am CN for all of the events I do (2x2-5x5, mega, clock, skewb, pyra, OH) and I think that at an elite level it would be useful.
If you want to get colour neutral I would just suggest practicing. If you don't want to be CN you should probably make an order to do the other S2L faces
Lol I did not even know you could be color neutral on clock
 

xyzzy

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Suits it make sense to be colour neutral for star but always do same last layer?
I used to do this back when I actually bothered grinding megaminx. White and yellow for F2L and finishing with grey for last layer. Using two adjacent stars has slightly less of an advantage than using two non-adjacent stars (e.g. white and grey, or white and orange), but it still opens up way more useful starting options compared to fixed star. (Which is also a double-edged sword, because inspection lasts only 15 seconds.)

If you're using a fixed S2L order, it wouldn't be too hard to switch to adjacent colours for F2L—you already do about half of the secondary F2L in your normal solves anyway! The rest of S2L after the first two colours is the same too, so this doesn't affect recognition too much.
 

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I'm not color neutral on megaminx, but I also don't use star. I'll do a kind of freefop thing and generally work with a lot of blocks. I'll always take advantage of a free pair--I've never really understood why you wouldn't especially on such a large puzzle.
there are two walkthrough videos on my channel if you're curious about what I mean
 

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I'll do a kind of freefop thing and generally work with a lot of blocks. I'll always take advantage of a free pair--I've never really understood why you wouldn't especially on such a large puzzle.
Same, except that I suck at megaminx lol.

edit: Also, probably not a big deal, but what if the prevalence of pairs is because 70 moves really isn't enough to properly scramble the puzzle? 70 certainly isn't even near enough to reach every possible state.
 
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What do you average on 3x3 and mega? What average can you get down to with basic LL and averaging 13-14 on 3x3 (I am sub 1:50ish on mega)
I average somewhere between 55-58 on mega (I haven't practiced in a while[so I would probably get like a 65s, but after maybe 150 solves, I would be back down to mid-high 50s]), and I average just about 11 flat on 3x3.
My mega LL is pretty basic, I know some of the PLLs that carry over from 3x3, and a couple of the easy to recognize ones, but I mostly just do 2look (CPLL and EPLL).
 

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What do you average on 3x3 and mega? What average can you get down to with basic LL and averaging 13-14 on 3x3 (I am sub 1:50ish on mega)
I'm not really sure who you were asking, so I'll answer as well. I average 37 on mega and barely sub-10 on 3x3. I think I'm a good example of the fact that you don't have to be fast at 3x3 to be fast at megaminx. Sure, sub-10 is pretty fast, but not compared to sub-40 on megaminx. I'm top 10 in the world for megaminx average and not even top 1000 for 3x3. Anyway, I'm not just trying to flex here; my point is that your 3x3 speed isn't tied to your megaminx speed as closely as people think. You can get sub-1 on megaminx if you practice a lot, and 4LLL is fine to do that.
 
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