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[Help Thread] Master Pyraminx Discussion

APdRF

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I just got mine today and it's really fun! And there's no thread for this one so... :p

What method do you use? To explain my method, lets first name the pieces:



The AP-1 Method:
1. Solve the 3 Edges surrounding a Tri-Center
2. Adjust the other 3 Tri-Centers
3. Solve the 3 remaining Edges with a Pyraminx L3E alg
4. Solve the Wings from a layer
5. Solve the last 6 Wings
6. Solve the centers

I'm averaging sub-1:10 with a PB of 56 seconds, just with 25 solves :p Do you know where to get scrambles for this puzzle?

Best regards,
Alberto
 

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I just got mine today and it's really fun! And there's no thread for this one so... :p

What method do you use? To explain my method, lets first name the pieces:



The AP-1 Method:
1. Solve the 3 Edges surrounding a Tri-Center
2. Adjust the other 3 Tri-Centers
3. Solve the 3 remaining Edges with a Pyraminx L3E alg
4. Solve the Wings from a layer
5. Solve the last 6 Wings
6. Solve the centers

I'm averaging sub-1:10 with a PB of 56 seconds, just with 25 solves :p Do you know where to get scrambles for this puzzle?

Best regards,
Alberto
My method is pretty similar I've only done like 10 solve tho, my best is 1:34.
 

rumarfer28

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I solve like a pyraminx, but taking care of the centers while puting the last 3 edges. You must have all the centers placed or none in order to avoid parity. I solve the pyraminx layer by layer, so it's easy to me, if I have 3 centers misplaced I turn the last layer and then I can solve the pyraminx. After finishing this step, I can have the centers solved or need 2 swapes, that I solve by down-down-up-up three times.

After that I use simple 3-cycles to solve the edges. You only need three moves each cycle with some setups (1 or 2 moves, nothing crazy).

It takes me 50 seconds to 1:10 to solve it.
 

APdRF

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>Layer
>Tri-Centres
>Wings
>Centres
And what's your avg?

I solve like a pyraminx, but taking care of the centers while puting the last 3 edges. You must have all the centers placed or none in order to avoid parity. I solve the pyraminx layer by layer, so it's easy to me, if I have 3 centers misplaced I turn the last layer and then I can solve the pyraminx. After finishing this step, I can have the centers solved or need 2 swapes, that I solve by down-down-up-up three times.

After that I use simple 3-cycles to solve the edges. You only need three moves each cycle with some setups (1 or 2 moves, nothing crazy).

It takes me 50 seconds to 1:10 to solve it.
I've never tried the down-down-up-up for the two two-cycles! Hahaha, so obvious now
 

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I solved it the way I solved pyraminx at the beginning -- solve a face, then pick another face and solve that. Repeat until it's all solved. In this case, it was all solved but with centres needing to be swapped. You can swap all four centres using three sledge-hammers (like on a skewb) but if you have three wrong centres, you can solve them using the clockwise edge cycle algorithm for pyraminx -- R U' R' U' R U' R'.

I guess this is a super-inefficient way to solve it, but it was entirely intuitive for me.
 

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I start with edge pairing (pairing edges with wings, which I'll refer to as complete edges) by getting 3 complete edges on the bottom. Then I pair the final 3 complete edges in the top layer. This is all intuitive. Then, I solve like a Pyraminx, and end by fixing centers. I average a bit over a minute but was able to get a pretty lucky 45.81 PB.
 

APdRF

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I start with edge pairing (pairing edges with wings, which I'll refer to as complete edges) by getting 3 complete edges on the bottom. Then I pair the final 3 complete edges in the top layer. This is all intuitive. Then, I solve like a Pyraminx, and end by fixing centers. I average a bit over a minute but was able to get a pretty lucky 45.81 PB.
That's an interesting method, I'll try it when I get back home :)
 

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better link edit: https://alexmaass.github.io/MasterPyraminxScrambler/MPS.html
simple random scrambler I made with the help of code from qqTimer
kinda badly explained notation: http://i.imgur.com/u58J6sq.png

I think 42 moves (not including tips) is a reasonable amount of moves to scramble the puzzle, plus it is the answer to life of course

I don't have a physical master pyraminx yet (should be tomorrow) so can anyone test this out to see how good the scrambles are? when I hopefully get mine tomorrow, I'll be able to make a better notation guide and some more finetuning
 
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APdRF

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https://jsfiddle.net/8czzaboz/
simple random scrambler I made with the help of code from qqTimer
kinda badly explained notation: http://i.imgur.com/u58J6sq.png

I think 42 moves (not including tips) is a reasonable amount of moves to scramble the puzzle, plus it is the answer to life of course

I don't have a physical master pyraminx yet (should be tomorrow) so can anyone test this out to see how good the scrambles are? when I hopefully get mine tomorrow, I'll be able to make a better notation guide and some more finetuning
That's interesting! A pity I don't have mine until 10th of January :(

Good times qqwref!
 

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i got one a few weeks ago and have been averaging between 30 and 35 with a lucky single of 16.31. My method is: layer (doesnt need the centre) -> edges -> centres -> wings. sonetimes i solve centres and edges together.
 

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Well I guess since nobody else has bumped this thread in a while I will:)

The reason for this bump is I am wondering if there is a scrambler for the Master Pyraminx on not. Like, for the UWR master Pyraminx times, were the scrambles hand scrambles or not? If there is a online scrambler for it could someone please link it since I can not find it? Thanks.

Lastly, If there is no online scrambler for it, do you think that using a standard Pyraminx scramble would work? Like, one scramble for the wide moves, and a second scramble for the small moves, and then using the tips on one of the scrambles? Thanks
 

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i got one a few weeks ago and have been averaging between 30 and 35 with a lucky single of 16.31. My method is: layer (doesnt need the centre) -> edges -> centres -> wings. sonetimes i solve centres and edges together.
Exactly what I do, but since I have only done about 10 solves I don't use any fixed algorithms except the obvious ones (F-sexy-F', sune, DDUU) and use simple commutators for the wings.
It took me a few solves to actually understand how the first-layer edges moved
 
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