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List of PLL best times

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The PLLs are arranged same as Bob Burton's page, http://www.cubewhiz.com/pll.html
Feel free to post yours according to the order and i will add your name here. I want to see where i stand in terms of PLLs

A(cw/a):
King Koopa - 0.79
n00bcubix- 1.06
Leviticus- 1.11
scottkidder- 1.39
fcwy1 - 1.44
fanwuq- 1.44
Vault312- 1.47
*LukeMayn*- 1.51
Hadley4000- 1.93
______

A(ccw/b):
Lotsofsloths- 0.84
n00bcubix- 0.94
Rachmaninovian - 1.08
King Koopa - 1.11
fanwuq- 1.13
*LukeMayn*- 1.23
Leviticus- 1.28
scottkidder- 1.38
Vault312- 1.44
fcwy1 - 1.57
Hadley4000- 2.18
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E:
n00bcubix- 1.53
King Koopa - 1.77
Leviticus- 1.91
scottkidder- 2.06
*LukeMayn*- 2.21
fanwuq- 2.22
fcwy1 - 2.53
Vault312- 2.89
______

H:
n00bcubix- 0.88
Hadley4000- 1.01
*LukeMayn*- 1.13
fanwuq- 1.19
King Koopa - 1.19
nitrocan- 1.34
Vault312- 1.44
Leviticus- 1.64
scottkidder- 1.76
______

Z:
fcwy1 - 1.07
n00bcubix- 1.43
fanwuq- 1.47
King Koopa - 1.49
Vault312- 1.70
*LukeMayn*- 1.84
nitrocan- 1.86
Hadley4000- 2.03
Winston-2.06
Leviticus- 2.43
scottkidder- 2.45
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U(a):
King Koopa - 0.89
Vault312- 0.92
fanwuq- 0.94
n00bcubix- 0.97
Leviticus- 1.11
fcwy1 - 1.12
*LukeMayn*- 1.19
nitrocan- 1.25
scottkidder- 1.28
Hadley4000- 1.68
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U(b):
fanwuq- 0.81
nitrocan- 0.94
King Koopa - 0.94
n00bcubix- 0.98
Vault312- 0.99
Leviticus- 1.19
scottkidder- 1.19
*LukeMayn*- 1.23
fcwy1 - 1.24
Hadley4000- 1.53
_____

J(b):
n00bcubix- 0.96
fcwy1 - 1.12
King Koopa - 1.32
fanwuq- 1.33
Leviticus- 1.38
Vault312- 1.44
*LukeMayn*- 1.47
scottkidder- 1.81
Hadley4000- 2.19
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J(a):
n00bcubix- 0.95
fanwuq- 1.09
King Koopa - 1.09
fcwy1 - 1.11
Leviticus- 1.15
scottkidder- 1.22
Vault312- 1.24
*LukeMayn*- 1.83
Hadley4000- 2.08
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T:
n00bcubix- 0.98
King Koopa - 1.01
Leviticus- 1.05
scottkidder- 1.18
Vault312- 1.27
nitrocan- 1.28
fcwy1 - 1.29
winston - 1.31
fanwuq- 1.31
*LukeMayn*- 1.42
Hadley4000- 2.05
______

R(left/a):
King Koopa - 1.53
n00bcubix- 1.57
Vault312- 1.67
Leviticus- 1.83
*LukeMayn*- 1.83
scottkidder- 2.03
fanwuq- 2.14
fcwy1 - 2.28
______

R(right/b):
n00bcubix- 1.27
King Koopa - 1.38
fanwuq- 1.42
fcwy1 - 1.47
*LukeMayn*- 1.73
Leviticus- 1.81
scottkidder- 1.84
Vault312- 1.94
______

F:
n00bcubix- 1.41
King Koopa - 1.47
Leviticus- 1.78
*LukeMayn*- 1.91
fanwuq- 1.95
Vault312- 2.11
fcwy1 - 2.27
_____

G(a):
n00bcubix- 1.61
King Koopa - 1.63
Leviticus- 1.71
fanwuq- 1.78
Vault312- 1.78
fcwy1 - 2.31
scottkidder- 2.40
_____

G(b):
Leviticus- 1.34
King Koopa - 1.39
n00bcubix- 1.47
fanwuq- 1.75
Vault312- 1.96
fcwy1 - 2.30
scottkidder- 2.34
_____

G(c):
n00bcubix- 1.38
Leviticus- 1.41
King Koopa - 1.51
Vault312- 1.88
fanwuq- 2.13
fcwy1 - 2.15
scottkidder- 2.33
_____

G(d):
King Koopa - 1.37
n00bcubix- 1.53
Leviticus- 1.63
Vault312- 1.85
fanwuq- 1.89
scottkidder- 2.04
fcwy1 - 2.19
_____

V:
n00bcubix- 1.32
Leviticus- 1.63
fcwy1 - 1.65
King Koopa - 1.68
fanwuq- 1.88
*LukeMayn*- 1.89
Vault312- 1.89
______

N(a):
GuyWithFunnyHat- 1.56
n00bcubix- 1.84
fanwuq- 1.94
*LukeMayn*- 2.32
King Koopa - 2.85
fcwy1 - 2.94
Vault312- 3.04
______

N(b):
GuyWithFunnyHat- 1.68
n00bcubix- 1.94
fanwuq- 2.22
Leviticus- 2.36
fcwy1 - 2.51
King Koopa - 2.53
*LukeMayn*- 2.54
Vault312- 3.22
_____

Y:
fanwuq- 1.41
King Koopa - 1.45
n00bcubix- 1.46
Leviticus- 1.52
scottkidder- 1.61
fcwy1 - 1.73
Vault312- 1.76
nitrocan- 1.94
*LukeMayn*- 2.13
______

PLL Time Attack:
GuyWithFunnyHat- 39.12
n00bcubix - 39.87
Inusagi - 45.32
Vault312- 54.87
King Koopa - 55.47
fcwy1 - 58.49 (only sub-1min once)
*LukeMayn*- 1:00.08
CAT13 - 1:09.00
fanwuq- 1:13.00
 
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Haha, I managed the T perm in 1.31 seconds before. I don't know how I did it, I guess I just went as fast as possible without locking up :) I'll post my times for the other PLL's when I get better. Thanks in advance :p
 
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This is list of PLL best times, not average of 12 like the above topic

I can't average H and Z perm so fast.
I had to keep on doing it for hours until i got such a timing.
I'll try getting a video next time
 

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a (cw) = 1.54
a ccw = 1.23
E = 2.21
H = 1.13
Z = 1.84
Ua = 1.19
Ub = 1.23
Ja = 1.47
Jb = 1.83
T = 1.42
Ra = 1.83
Rb = 1.73
F = 1.91
Ga = can't remember
Gb = can't remember
Gc = can't remember
Gd = can't remember
v = 1.89
Na = 2.32
Nb = 2.54
Y = 2.13 (UGH... bad Y)

PLL time attack = 1.00.08 (so close to sub 1 >_>(funny, I was just practising them today :p))
 

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I've seen him do it and I don't believe it. Never did. I'm sure many others who've seen him slice can back me up (FU, Rachmaninovian?). He can slice fast, but not that fast.

In fact, just so that you know, most people here can slice fast. It's just a silly thing that everyone wants to look cool and learn how to slice, and I think I can safely claim that we are the cubing community with the most (fast) slicers in the world, and it's really pointless imo. Most people here can get something like sub-1 H perms and sub-1.5 Z perms (I'm talking singles), and can't even sub-20 on a normal solve because they only practiced the two least probable PLLs, and mastered a fingertrick that's really extremely useless in Fridrich. Just for the record, no one does Roux.

I myself have got a 0.9x H perm and a 1.3x Z perm before (with <MU> 2-gen), but I still use the <RU> 2-gen Z perm and haven't yet decided which H perm to use :p because slicing times are really inconsistent for me.
 

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Ua-1.11
Ub- 1.19
Aa- 1.11
Ab-1.28
T- 1.05
Ja- 1.15
Jb- 1.38
V- 1.63
E- 1.91 Need to learn new one.
Na- 2.34 Need to learn new one.
Nb- 2.36 Need to learn new one.
Y- 1.52
Ra- 1.83
Rb- 1.81
H- 1.64
Z- 2.43 Need to learn new one.
F- 1.78
Ga- 1.71
Gb- 1.34
Gc- 1.41
Gd- 1.63

I don't know which G or whatever they are i just labeled them with a letter.
 

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@Leviticus, I don't think you need new ones for those PLLs (except Z, you're in dire need for a new one for that one :p) Most people get around times like those for E and N anyway. Besides, with times like that, do you have a sub-40 PLL time attack?
 

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@Leviticus, I don't think you need new ones for those PLLs (except Z, you're in dire need for a new one for that one :p) Most people get around times like those for E and N anyway. Besides, with times like that, do you have a sub-40 PLL time attack?
Those were my best times from about 5-7 shots at it. I know i suck at Z AND H, i don't practice slice moves. I have never done a PLL time attack and don't intend to soon. I'd rather practice solving. I use the N perms of Bob's page, they suck and i might learn Nakaji's, and i lock up for the E perm so im not that consistant.
 

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Funny, I started out with Yu Nakajima's N (both), but didn't like it and switched to the RFU one. I don't know what's Bob's N though. Your H is decent for anyone who doesn't slice, my non-slicing H perm is 1.3 to 1.5 normally. Ever seen some Japanese guys do a 17 move Z perm in like 1.2? :D That's cooler than slicing.
 

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I've seen him do it and I don't believe it. Never did. I'm sure many others who've seen him slice can back me up (FU, Rachmaninovian?). He can slice fast, but not that fast.
you have seen me slice during solves or just for fun.
my normal H perm average is around 1.3 at first.

you have never saw me spam H perm for hours until i slowly sub-1 and then keep on getting faster.
 
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0.50 H perm is really unbelievable :O

personally I think i did a 1.01 H perm and 1.15 Z perm. but again I'm talking about singles :)
consistently? nah. It's just a bunch of useless finger tricks for fridrich (unless you are using COLL o_O) that i randomly practise. nowadays I'm barely sub 1.5 for H perm and sub 2 for Z perm. lol.

Again, I'm still skeptical about the 0.50 H perm. seen it? no, missed it because I was busy solving 4x4 when it happened. whether FU believes I dunno. o_O
But overall I think Julian slices faster, so that concludes my stand. I am skeptical. Again with such crazy times, not everyone will believe.
 
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The ones that I remember:
U(a): 1.45
U(b): 0.94
T: 1.28
Y: 1.94
H: 1.34
Z: 1.86

0.5 H-Perm? That's ridiculous.
 
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I am only skeptical of the .5 Hperm because the fastest thats been on video is a .71 by Doowon Joo, and that was still 1/4 turn from being solved. And then the second fastest I've heard is Jason Baum with a .77, and he is also frequently sub-1 on both U's both A's, J and T. I think rowe has done a sub -.8 Hperm before as well.

I'm not saying that a .50 is impossible, I just need to see at least a .55-.59 before I believe that it actually happened.
 

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I once got a .8 counterclockwise U perm, and have gotten .84 several times.

My fastest H perm is .96 or so, and definitely not sub-.9.
 

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Look, a 0.50 H perm is possible when you overestimate yourself, start slicing before starting the timer, and stop the timer before ending your alg, that's all there is to it. Or, the timer malfunctions. And when you see 0.50 on the timer, you get all excited about it and you don't even bother thinking about how that's even theoretically/practically possible without you "accidentally cheating" by starting the timer late and stopping it early.

To all you guys (and girls) on this forum, this topic of insanely fast slicing H and Z perms is not new in our local community, we've had people claiming 0.7x U perms and 1.0x Z perms and other ridiculous times that we all won't happen in a real solve. I'm not trying to put anyone down. But if someone wants to be happy and satisfied with such little things, let him be, don't ask him to prove it because he can't and he knows he can't because he knows it's not real. He just tells himself it is because he wants to be happy with such "achievements".

This is how he does his H perm, I know it because I've seen it: M'2 U M'2 U2 M'2 U M'2. He does index-middle U2 and ring-middle M'2. That's TWELVE finger flicks, in POINT FIVE seconds? You gotta be kidding me, that's 24 tps (QTM). I think QTM is a less biased metric here because of obvious reasons. Show me you can do an RU 2-gen alg of your choice in 24 tps before you claim to be able to do MU 2-gen in 24 tps. Even Syuhei's (or was it someone else's?) insane (RU')*63 was not even 10 tps. And I think my (RUR'U')*3 is pretty fast, I can average just under a second with it, and that's just a little over 10 tps.

Sorry if I'm appearing extremely hostile here, but I've really seen too much of this nonsense in real life (we have our own local forum, and we meet up every weekend), I just can't stand seeing it here again.
 
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Look, a 0.50 H perm is possible when you overestimate yourself, start slicing before starting the timer, and stop the timer before ending your alg, that's all there is to it.
we've had people claiming 0.7x U perms and 1.0x Z perms and other ridiculous times that we all won't happen in a real solve.
This is how he does his H perm, I know it because I've seen it: M'2 U M'2 U2 M'2 U M'2. He does index-middle U2 and ring-middle M'2. That's TWELVE finger flicks, in POINT FIVE seconds? You gotta be kidding me, that's 24 tps (QTM). I think QTM is a less biased metric here because of obvious reasons. Show me you can do an RU 2-gen alg of your choice in 24 tps before you claim to be able to do MU 2-gen in 24 tps. Even Syuhei's (or was it someone else's?) insane (RU')*63 was not even 10 tps. And I think my (RUR'U')*3 is pretty fast, I can average just under a second with it, and that's just a little over 10 tps.
Sorry if I'm appearing extremely hostile here, but I've really seen too much of this nonsense in real life (we have our own local forum, and we meet up every weekend), I just can't stand seeing it here again.
Yes, I agree. I don't think .50 H is really possible. I remember that when I used to average over 2 seconds for H perm, I lubed my cube and got a 1.27, I did not believe that time. I tried it about 30 more times and average was about 1.9 and best was 1.50. So I counted 1.50 as my pb back than. Now, I'm at about 1.5 average and 1.19 single.
For U perm, I think 0.7 is easily possible. I do not consider myself a fast turner and I have done 0.84 single and 0.94 average.

I have a whole list of my PLL time log at home. I'll get that and paste it here.
Wasn't there already a topic about PLL times?
I know I posted one and I think slncuber posted one.
This was my topic:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6062

I know I got all sub-2 singles except N2, E, and 2 of the G's.
 
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