# Lets learn from Lucas' 4.90 WR solve

#### CriticalCubing

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Lets learn from Lucas Etter's 4.90 WR solve.

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I wouldn't say Lucas did OLLCP, that's the regular algorithm and he most likely saw he would skip before solving.

#### Ordway Persyn

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I wouldn't say Lucas did OLLCP, that's the regular algorithm and he most likely saw he would skip before solving.
Technically it's still an OLLCP.

#### mark49152

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Technically it's still an OLLCP.
Technically it's also 1LLL. The question is what did Lucas intend by choosing that alg, and only Lucas can tell us that.

#### JustinTimeCuber

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uhh I use that alg and I would have no idea that I would get a PLL skip or a CPLL skip.

#### CriticalCubing

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Technically, it is an OLLCP but it also a standard alg for that OLL case from that angle.
Why did Lucas use that alg? Because it is the standard alg and most people use that. I also use the same alg from that angle and the other alg for y2 angle.

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Technically, it is an OLLCP but it also a standard alg for that OLL case from that angle.
Why did Lucas use that alg? Because it is the standard alg and most people use that. I also use the same alg from that angle and the other alg for y2 angle.
Technically it's also just random moves and maybe he just got lucky in solving it?

#### Praetorian

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if I do f (R U R' U') f' to solve my OLL but it permutes the corners did I use OLLCP? I would count that as a CP skip but my algorithm wasn't an OLLCP because I had no intent of solving the corners alongside it

#### WACWCA

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Its not an OLLCP unless its not the solvers normal algorithm

#### Cale S

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Its not an OLLCP unless its not the solvers normal algorithm
So if I recognize OLLCP every solve but get the case solved with the standard alg, it's not OLLCP?

I would consider this OLLCP iff Lucas recognized the CP along with the OLL, which I don't think he did.

#### Przemek Kaleta

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I would consider this OLLCP iff Lucas recognized the CP along with the OLL, which I don't think he did.
I'm pretty sure he did, lol.

#### 2180161

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So if I recognize OLLCP every solve but get the case solved with the standard alg, it's not OLLCP?

I would consider this OLLCP iff Lucas recognized the CP along with the OLL, which I don't think he did.
I assume this is why when reconstructing solves, if it is, say a fat sune, with CP solved, the put OLL(CP) because who knows if it is their normal alg or not? Unless we ask them, we won't know. Or so I assume; but, you know what they say about assuming!

#### WACWCA

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Unless he knows all the OLLCP cases for that oll, he might but i dont think he knows all of them for all 51 cases

#### Cale S

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Unless he knows all the OLLCP cases for that oll, he might but i dont think he knows all of them for all 51 cases
He wouldn't have to know all of OLLCP, he just needed to know this one and recognize it in the solve (this case is easy to know because the alg is <R,r,U> so it doesn't affect CP).