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[WR] Leandro Martín López 29.27 Megaminx Average

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Do you have any examples of incidents like this happening before?

One example is Drew Brads' 2.90 pyraminx WR average at US Nationals 2014. But that's just one, there were countless similiar incidents and as far as I remember the solution was always DNF. I will talk with some older cubers because I do not remember now all the names and details.

video, around 1:00
 
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The allowable limit is zero. It's not 45 degrees, it's not 36 degrees, it's 0.

You're not supposed to turn the layers by any amount at all, with the only official concession being that you're allowed to align the layers if the puzzle was delivered to you with the layers misaligned. Unofficially, it's understood that unintentional small partial turns happen all the time, and delegates (rightfully) turn a blind eye to those; it'd be wasting competition resources to DNF people for accidentally turning a layer by 1 degree, for example.
From my understanding, if you turn it under halfway (45 degrees for 3x3 and 36 for megaminx), and then you turn it back, it should still count as a time. Also to put into example what we could possibly decide, it would have not bee a world record if that solve was DNF'ed/
 

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what angle is this - trick question, it's too blurry to tell.png
I see that there's someone who's very confident about what the angle is, but how can you ascertain anything when the video quality is this bad? (This is a screencap from the VP9 1080p stream.)
 

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The allowable limit is zero. It's not 45 degrees, it's not 36 degrees, it's 0.

You're not supposed to turn the layers by any amount at all, with the only official concession being that you're allowed to align the layers if the puzzle was delivered to you with the layers misaligned. Unofficially, it's understood that unintentional small partial turns happen all the time, and delegates (rightfully) turn a blind eye to those; it'd be wasting competition resources to DNF people for accidentally turning a layer by 1 degree, for example.
The rule which could apply:
  • A3c1) The competitor must not apply moves during inspection. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF).
What specifically a "move" is is not clearly defined.
 
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The rule which could apply:
  • A3c1) The competitor must not apply moves during inspection. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF).
What specifically a "move" is is not clearly defined.
That's what I said
my personal opinion is that anything under 36 degrees shouldn't count as a move and it's up to the discretion of the wca delegate who in this case allowed it.

Unfortunately this was his fastest solve so if it counted as DNF his average would be (DNF) 33.57 (28.44) 28.86 30.51 which would result in a 30.98 avg, not beating Juan Pablo Huanqui's 30.39
 
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