Kilominx Full Last Layer / CLL - help

Juqe

Member
Hey,
since I have not found any Algorithm-Doc for Full Last Layer on Kilominx, i created my own. I got 73 of the total 196 algs, I tried to use a lot of already existing OLLCP/ZBLL-Algs, but I also discovered some on my own. Currently I am running out of ideas for Algs, therefore I'd be very thankful for help. Sorry that the PDF does not look that well, it's the first one I created - I want to fix it when I collected all of the Algs.
Please correct me if I've done any mistakes (U2/U2' might be an issue, also I am not 100% sure about the AUF) or if you found better algs then the ones in the Doc.

Greetings.

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PapaSmurf

Member
You could check out mega OLL lists to see if there are algs on there that work for CLLs that you don't have yet.

vidcapper

Member
Can't help with the original question, but I had an incredibly lucky Kilominx solve just now. Just completed the last but one layer, and found the last layer solved too! The odds against that must be many thousands to one? Something like 5! x 3^5 = 29160, but not sure of the constraints that must reduce that figure a bit?

Apologies if this should have been in a new thread.

Spacey10

Member
Maybe experiment with common 3x3 triggers? Like sledge or R U R'U'.

Cuberstache

Member
Can't help with the original question, but I had an incredibly lucky Kilominx solve just now. Just completed the last but one layer, and found the last layer solved too! The odds against that must be many thousands to one? Something like 5! x 3^5 = 29160, but not sure of the constraints that must reduce that figure a bit?

Apologies if this should have been in a new thread.
The probability thread is where this should have been. In any case, your figure is missing some constraints. The true probablility should be (5! * 3^5)/(2 * 3) = 4860. Divide by 2 because half the time there's a two-swap of corners, and by three because two-thirds of the time there's a corner twist. I may have made an error here, but I believe this is correct.

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TipsterTrickster

Member
Not CLL, but still 2lls
Inspired by 2x2 HD methods, orient lsll > insert corner + pll

VIBE_ZT

Member
This is really cool!

However, I am unsure if I understand the practicality of this. I mean.... How would you recognise the cases? There isn't exactly any "opposite colors" like on an N×N.

So... Maybe you'd have to memorize the full color scheme of the upper 5 faces and somehow use that knowledge? Idk

TipsterTrickster

Member
I think you would recognize with bars and headlights, I haven’t done much development on it as I don’t really care about kilominx, and this was kinda just a proof of concept for myself.

vidcapper

Member
The probability thread is where this should have been. In any case, your figure is missing some constraints. The true probablility should be (5! * 3^5)/(2 * 3) = 4860. Divide by 2 because half the time there's a two-swap of corners, and by three because two-thirds of the time there's a corner twist. I may have made an error here, but I believe this is correct.
Thanks for that - still pretty lucky to beat those odds though!

Cuberstache

Member
Thanks for that - still pretty lucky to beat those odds though!
I think I made a mistake - Divide that figure by 5 since there are 5 angles that would count as a "CLL skip". 1:4860 is for a skip with no AUF, a skip would any AUF would be 1:972

abunickabhi

Member
Hey,
since I have not found any Algorithm-Doc for Full Last Layer on Kilominx, i created my own. I got 73 of the total 196 algs, I tried to use a lot of already existing OLLCP/ZBLL-Algs, but I also discovered some on my own. Currently I am running out of ideas for Algs, therefore I'd be very thankful for help. Sorry that the PDF does not look that well, it's the first one I created - I want to fix it when I collected all of the Algs.
Please correct me if I've done any mistakes (U2/U2' might be an issue, also I am not 100% sure about the AUF) or if you found better algs then the ones in the Doc.

Greetings.
Hi,

I checked out the cases mentioned in this pdf.

Some of the rows are empty. Are you going to add algs for those cases or do I have to look somewhere else for the optimal way to solve these cases?

DuckubingCuber347

Member
Hi,

I checked out the cases mentioned in this pdf.

Some of the rows are empty. Are you going to add algs for those cases or do I have to look somewhere else for the optimal way to solve these cases?
Fortunately, there is another document available.