It's the cuber, not the cube: Is there a limit?

[blackzabbathfan]

Everyone is always saying that it is the cuber not the cube, which I totally agree with, but is there a limit? Could faz have gotten 5.66 with a Rubik's Brand? I am curious to knowwhat you guys think of this.

 

[Godmil]

There was a thread last week that totally killed that phrase. Pretty much everyone demonstrated that they were significantly faster with good cubes.

 

[Jaycee]

I prefer :

"Cubes can help, but the cuber makes the most difference." Not as catchy, but it works.

Also, I think Feliks (Calling him Faz bugs me >__>) has a sub-10 Average of 5 with a Rubik's Brand (correct me if I'm wrong). Unofficial, of course, but I think it's on YouTube.

 

[Dene]

Who says that? I don't recall hearing it; clearly the cube matters.

 

[Godmil]

If it makes you feel better think of it not like a good cube makes you faster, but rather a bad cube can hold you back.

Who says that? I don't recall hearing it;

Oh, I've read it dozens of times.

 

[zmikecuber]

A good cube will help alot. I dont think anyone disagrees... is it possible for Faz to get 5.66 on a rubiks storebought? In theory yes. Lots of things are possible in theory though. I think he could, though it might be very unlikely.

 

[Dene]

If it makes you feel better think of it not like a good cube makes you faster, but rather a bad cube can hold you back.

I don't see how it makes any difference.

 

[cubernya]

Yes. Feliks has a sub 9 solve on an unmodded, unlubed Rubik's brand at an unofficial competition. It can be done. Not easily, although I remember seeing Feliks doing an avg5 sub10 with it. He even said he liked the feel of it

I can't find the videos right now since they're not viewed too much, but I know that they are on youtube somewhere

 

[Godmil]

I don't see how it makes any difference.

Well I've read at least one person saying that using a Dayan doesn't reflect your True speed as a cuber, unless you can replicate it on worse cubes.

 

[Phlippieskezer]

I personally find that at relatively slow times (i.e. sup-30), a nice cube doesn't really change things much, but at faster times (i.e. sub-15, and such; more so sub-10), a good cube helps a lot.

With that being said, if you're fast, you can still get really nice times even with a bad cube, just not as good. So, it's mostly the cuber, not the cube, but the cube does have an effect, for sure.

 

[Hershey]

If you went from a storebought to a Dayan Zhanchi, it probably will make a big difference in you time.
However if you went from the Lubix Guhong to Lubix Zhanchi, wouldn't there be no difference in times at all?

 

[Dene]

Well I've read at least one person saying that using a Dayan doesn't reflect your True speed as a cuber, unless you can replicate it on worse cubes.

Who said that, and why should I care about their opinion? Also, just because someone said it, it doesn't make it true, nor does it mean it makes any sense, because it doesn't.

 

[Godmil]

Who said that, and why should I care about their opinion?

You shouldn't... I wasn't saying it was right..... Why are you....ah! I see. Sorry my post before wasn't directed at you, it was for the OP

 

[Cubenovice]

I am slow with all cubes so it must be the cuber.

Or perhaps I just haven't come across the right cube yet?

 

[Georgeanderre]

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Before the UKO i was averaging 30 with an A3, at the UKO i was sub 23 with most DaYans...
so although it may be the cuber who does the most... the cube also does a lot, even if its just physiological

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[rk960925]

I think that even if you have a great skill level, if the cube cannot turn at your level, which i mean is if the cube cannot turn fast as your fingers, there is a limit that nobody can reach.
However, i don't think there will be a limit to solving computer software cubes.

 

[Thompson]

Cuber: 75%
Cube: 25%

In my opinion

 

[JAYperm]

yup

 

[DavidWoner]

A good cuber is nothing without a good cube, a good cube is nothing without a good cuber.

 

[Godmil]

A good cuber is nothing without a good cube, a good cube is nothing without a good cuber.

Very quotable.