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IsThatA4x4’s progression thread // Road to sub-10 3x3 // Sub-10 squan

lawofthecube

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Kinda, unless I have nerves, then I try to turn calmly but end up locking up every 2 seconds and getting a 15.
Also, I think I was trying to turn a little slower for that session, just to see what would happen, and I got 2 sub-9s so it was a success I guess.

I think what I liked with your solve was that you seemed very present with your solving. It is quite seducing to get ahead of a solve either wanting to go faster or just being out of sync with one's mind, body and cube combination...
 

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Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-13
single: 7.47

Time List:
1. 7.47 L2 U2 L2 F2 L2 U2 B L2 F' U2 B2 U' L R2 U R D2 U L2 B'

x2 y U D L F' B D2 L' D' // Cross
U2 y' L U' L2 U L // Pairs 1 & 2
U' y L' U2 L U' L' U L // Pair #3
U' R U' R' U2 R U' R' // Pair #4
U R' U' R' F R F' R' F R F' U R // OLL
// PLL skip
43/7.47=5.8 TPS

PB by 0.05!
 

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Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-15
avg of 12: 10.77

Time List:
1. 10.52 R B2 D2 B R2 B' D2 B' D2 R2 F' L2 U' L' B2 U2 L2 D' R2 F
2. 10.00 L' B' R2 F2 U F' D2 R D' R' U2 L B2 L' F2 R D2 L' F2 U2 R'
3. 9.88 B' D' L B' D R2 U R' D' F2 B2 L2 D F2 L2 B2 L2 D F2 U F
4. 10.25 U2 L2 U' R2 U2 B2 D' R2 F2 L2 B' R' D R' F' L U F' L2 D
5. (14.00) U2 F R U' B' U2 L2 D' L' F2 B2 U R2 D2 R2 L2 D' R2 U2 L2 F
6. 10.49 D F2 D' L2 R2 D2 R2 D' B2 R2 L F L2 R D L2 R F2 R2 U
7. 11.58 F' R2 B U2 L2 R2 F' L2 B2 D2 F' D R D' R' D F2 L' F R
8. 11.24 L' B' U R2 F2 D' B2 L2 F2 L2 D2 B2 D L R U' F' D' R' B'
9. (8.75) F2 L2 D2 F U2 R2 B R2 F' L2 U2 F' L U2 L B2 U F2 D' F2
10. 12.02 F2 D F' R D2 B' L2 D R2 B2 D' L2 B2 D2 L2 U F2 R' D
11. 11.80 F2 U' B' L2 F R2 U2 F L2 B2 L2 F' U2 B' L U2 R' F D R2 B'
12. 9.87 D2 F U2 B U2 F U2 R2 D2 F' R2 F D' U2 R D' B' U2 R' F'

Maybe I should start doing timed solves for real again...
 

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A nice mo3 (not PB)
Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-18
mean of 3: 9.79

Time List:
1. 11.03 R2 D B2 D2 B L2 B R2 B L2 B L2 R2 D' R' F U' R2 F' L
2. 9.63 R2 L2 D' F' L B' U R2 D F2 D2 B2 L U2 R D2 L U2 R' D2 R'
3. 8.71 R2 D2 L2 R2 B' L2 B2 R2 B' R2 F' L' R' D' R B F R2 U'

Edit: got a nice ao5 after
Generated By csTimer on 2022-06-18
avg of 5: 10.19

Time List:
1. 9.63 R2 L2 D' F' L B' U R2 D F2 D2 B2 L U2 R D2 L U2 R' D2 R'
2. (8.71) R2 D2 L2 R2 B' L2 B2 R2 B' R2 F' L' R' D' R B F R2 U'
3. (13.80) B2 R2 U' F2 L2 U' L2 D' R2 F2 U2 L' D' R D' F' L2 D' B2 U F
4. 11.03 U2 D F D' B2 D' R2 L' B' D' R2 U' B2 R2 D R2 F2 R2 F2 D2 B2
5. 9.91 L' B2 F2 R2 U2 R' B2 R D2 L' B2 R2 F' L' R' F' U2 L' U' F' R2
 

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There's something I've been wanting to do for at least 8 months at this point, but I've had to keep postponing it because it's kinda time consuming...
I want to do 1000 3x3 solves. In one sitting...
Back when I first wanted to do this, I averaged 17, and it would've taken 10 hours (includes scramble and inspection time)
Now, I average 11, and including scramble and inspection time, it would take me 6.9 hours (no I'm not joking that's just the way it is).
With the summer holidays coming up, I might finally be able to find the time to do it!
But at what cost...
 

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There's something I've been wanting to do for at least 8 months at this point, but I've had to keep postponing it because it's kinda time consuming...
I want to do 1000 3x3 solves. In one sitting...
Back when I first wanted to do this, I averaged 17, and it would've taken 10 hours (includes scramble and inspection time)
Now, I average 11, and including scramble and inspection time, it would take me 6.9 hours (no I'm not joking that's just the way it is).
With the summer holidays coming up, I might finally be able to find the time to do it!
But at what cost...
Your mom's probably gonna scream at you to stop that clacking noise after a few hours, and your hands are gonna start blistering
 

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I'm thinking of learning a couple more COLLs (at least to avoid diag, it's getting annoying with the N perms on sub-8 or sub-9 pace). Which subsets would be a good idea? Here's what I have in mind:
I already use (incl. standard OLLs)
4/4 H
3/6 Pi
2/6 T (lefty and righty oll alg)
4/6 L (I don't like the matching colour on top ones yet, I need to practice them)
2/6 U (R2' D' [...] and R2 D [...] algs)

I want to learn full TUL COLL, is that useful? The algs don't look bad at all (this is not sarcastic for the record even though saying this makes it seem more that way...)
 

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Got a 8.06 stackmat hand scramble single while doing some comp style timing practice
(Fullstep, X-cross), which is PB4 so that's nice.
I'm trying to get more consistent to avoid a Weston Super-Mare finals incident so I'll be working on efficiency more so that when I turn slow I can get good solutions.
 

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Sub 10 mo3 #3
Generated By csTimer on 2022-07-03
mean of 3: 9.65

Time List:
1. 10.84 B2 R2 B2 R2 U' R2 D' R2 F2 R2 F2 B' R2 D B2 L' B' F' D B2 L2
2. 8.77 B' D' B' U' D' F B2 L' B' R2 L2 D2 R2 U' R2 F2 D B2 L2
3. 9.34 F' L F2 R D2 B2 R U2 B2 R B' L B2 D' U2 B2 U F U'

All fullstep

Edit: also a relatively nice ao12
Generated By csTimer on 2022-07-03
avg of 12: 10.81

Time List:
1. 11.34 U B2 L F' U' F L2 B' U2 D B2 D2 B2 R2 D' R2 B2 U L2
2. 10.88 R2 B U2 F2 U2 L2 R2 B U2 F' L2 R B' R' F' L U' B' R2 F U'
3. 10.69 U' F2 B' L F' D' B' D2 B2 U' R2 D2 R2 D L2 U' R2 L2 F2 L'
4. 10.97 D2 U2 B2 U2 B' D2 U2 B R2 B R2 F2 L' D R D2 B R U2 R' F'
5. 10.84 B2 R2 B2 R2 U' R2 D' R2 F2 R2 F2 B' R2 D B2 L' B' F' D B2 L2
6. (8.77) B' D' B' U' D' F B2 L' B' R2 L2 D2 R2 U' R2 F2 D B2 L2
7. 9.34 F' L F2 R D2 B2 R U2 B2 R B' L B2 D' U2 B2 U F U'
8. 11.35 F' U L2 F2 R D2 R F2 R U2 B2 L2 F2 B' R2 F2 D' R' U' F2
9. 10.34 R' D' U' L2 D' B2 F2 U' B2 L R F' D R' B L' U L
10. (12.89) D2 L D2 R B2 L B2 U2 L2 D2 U2 F R' B' L U2 B' D B D
11. 12.80 U L2 D' F2 L2 U' L2 D' B2 L2 F2 L2 F' L B D' B' R2 B' R2 D2
12. 9.58 B D2 U2 F' D2 U2 F D2 R2 D' B2 F' D' R B2 L2 D' B2
 

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OOOH yes
Sub 10 ao5!
This is a huuge achievement for me.
Generated By csTimer on 2022-07-03
avg of 5: 9.94

Time List:
1. 9.88 R F D2 B R2 F' R2 D2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F' L' F' D B' L' D B L2
2. (12.29) D B' R2 U2 L2 B' L2 F U2 F U2 B' U' L F2 U' L2 F2 U2 B'
3. 9.65 F' U D2 F' B L' U F' L B2 R F2 R B2 R' D2 F2 R D2 R2 F
4. (9.05) B2 L B' L2 B D' L B' D' F2 U2 L U2 R2 D2 R' F2 R2 U2 D2
5. 10.30 F' U2 L2 R2 F D2 B2 F' D2 F D2 U' L R F' U2 R F2 R' U R2

Edit: next solve
Generated By csTimer on 2022-07-03
avg of 5: 9.81

Time List:
1. (12.29) D B' R2 U2 L2 B' L2 F U2 F U2 B' U' L F2 U' L2 F2 U2 B'
2. 9.65 F' U D2 F' B L' U F' L B2 R F2 R B2 R' D2 F2 R D2 R2 F
3. (9.05) B2 L B' L2 B D' L B' D' F2 U2 L U2 R2 D2 R' F2 R2 U2 D2
4. 10.30 F' U2 L2 R2 F D2 B2 F' D2 F D2 U' L R F' U2 R F2 R' U R2
5. 9.48 F D' L2 B2 D' F2 D2 F2 L2 U' L2 B2 F D R' B2 L R2 B R'

Edit edit: ao12 PB
Generated By csTimer on 2022-07-03
avg of 12: 10.70

Time List:
1. 10.27 D L' D B2 U' L2 B2 F2 D2 U B2 R2 D2 L2 F U' F2 D R2 U' L
2. 10.60 U2 B' R2 F2 R2 U2 F U2 L2 B U2 L' B' L2 B' L2 F2 U L2
3. (13.20) L U' L2 U2 F' U2 B' D2 F2 D2 B' D R B2 F' L2 D' B'
4. 10.14 L U F R2 D2 U2 B' R2 U2 R2 F2 D' F2 U' F L U L' B
5. 12.30 U D2 F2 D2 B2 R' D2 R' B2 L' R' B R2 U' F2 D' R2 D2 B
6. 9.88 R F D2 B R2 F' R2 D2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F' L' F' D B' L' D B L2
7. 12.29 D B' R2 U2 L2 B' L2 F U2 F U2 B' U' L F2 U' L2 F2 U2 B'
8. 9.65 F' U D2 F' B L' U F' L B2 R F2 R B2 R' D2 F2 R D2 R2 F
9. (9.05) B2 L B' L2 B D' L B' D' F2 U2 L U2 R2 D2 R' F2 R2 U2 D2
10. 10.30 F' U2 L2 R2 F D2 B2 F' D2 F D2 U' L R F' U2 R F2 R' U R2
11. 9.48 F D' L2 B2 D' F2 D2 F2 L2 U' L2 B2 F D R' B2 L R2 B R'
12. 12.11 U' F R' L2 D F2 R2 D U L2 B2 D' U2 L2 B R2 D R F' L2 U2

Edit edit edit: again
Generated By csTimer on 2022-07-03
avg of 12: 10.65

Time List:
1. 9.65 F' U D2 F' B L' U F' L B2 R F2 R B2 R' D2 F2 R D2 R2 F
2. (9.05) B2 L B' L2 B D' L B' D' F2 U2 L U2 R2 D2 R' F2 R2 U2 D2
3. 10.30 F' U2 L2 R2 F D2 B2 F' D2 F D2 U' L R F' U2 R F2 R' U R2
4. 9.48 F D' L2 B2 D' F2 D2 F2 L2 U' L2 B2 F D R' B2 L R2 B R'
5. 12.11 U' F R' L2 D F2 R2 D U L2 B2 D' U2 L2 B R2 D R F' L2 U2
6. 11.17 B2 D F L U F R' B R' U2 D F2 U' L2 F2 R2 D2 B2 D2 L2
7. (12.75) D2 L' F2 B2 R' U2 F' U2 F' U2 F2 U B2 U2 R2 D' L2 D' L2 F2
8. 11.52 F2 L B2 D' B2 L2 B2 U2 F2 D L2 U' B2 F U2 B' R U B' D F'
9. 10.68 F' U F2 L B' U F2 L F2 B2 D2 B2 L U2 R2 B2 D2 F2 D
10. 10.77 F' D' L2 U2 B2 L2 U2 F R2 F R2 F R B2 F' D' B' F2 L B2
11. 10.31 R2 U' B' R B2 L2 U D' L' U2 L' D2 F2 R L2 F2 D2 L' D2 L'
12. 10.53 R F' L' R2 B' L2 F U2 F' L2 F2 D2 F L U B R' U2 F D'
 
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IsThatA4x4

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Another nice mo3:
Generated By csTimer on 2022-07-05
mean of 3: 9.64

Time List:
1. 9.12 D' R U B2 U B2 L2 D R2 D2 L2 D B2 F2 L B U' B F' L' U2
2. 11.23 L D2 B2 L2 B2 R' D2 L2 F2 R' B2 D F R2 D2 B R' B D2 R2
3. 8.57 F' D' L2 F' U B' R' F' R' B2 R2 L2 D2 F D2 B' R2 F2 B
 

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What's your general average and pb ao100?
General average (basically my ao1000) = ~11.6 (but it's going down every day)
ao100 pb = 11.25
ao50 pb = 11.16

Like every other person, I have good and bad days, one day I'm practically sub-11 and other days I'm sitting there averaging high 11.
But I think I'm getting slightly more consistent, and I'm also being able to predict first pair a lot more often.
 

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Been experimenting with S slice edge control for LS, and I've found some things that should allow me to skip dot practically all the time with next to no timeloss (I hope) if I combine it with sledge / hedge.

Oriented pair (RU insert)
Connected pair at the front: R' F R F' / S' R U' R' S
Connected pair at back: S' R' U R S (super fast when S moves are done with left hand)
Separated pair at front: S' R U R' S
Separated pair at back: S' R' U R S (for some reason I execute this entire alg with my right hand but it's still fast)

Misoriented pair (yRU/FU/BU insert)
Connected pair at front: F R' F' R
Everything else is just a y rotation into oriented pair

When some edges are oriented, and you have a misoriented separated pair, you can insert it with some variation of S' R U2 R' S which will preserve EO and is rotationless

S slice inserts are also useful elsewhere, and I'm incorporating that too.

Basically this post is and advertisement for S slices
 
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