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I don’t want to learn full ZBLL, so 2GLL seemed like a good subset (RU algs are very satisfying). At some point I’ll probably learn full ZBLL, but I’ll save that for when I am more efficient elsewhere.

Yeah, tbh Tymon would be so much better if he didn't do any ZBLL or ZBLS tricks. He's not doing himself any favors. It's better just to do LL in two steps instead of one. The fact that he turns bad OLL's into a ZBLL is even more repulsive, really just put your years of those stupid Pseudo techniques (Pseudo God, really Tymon?) and those LL influencing away. You're better off using plain old OLL and PLL for CFOP LL. It's called CFOP not PCFZ.

New PB mo3 and ao5
Generated By csTimer on 2021-10-03
mean of 3: 13.59

Time List:
1. 14.08 B2 R' U2 F2 D2 U2 R' F2 U2 L2 D2 B' U B2 F2 L2 D' L'
2. 13.68 L' D L2 D2 R2 F D2 B D2 U2 L2 U2 B U' F R2 B L D U'
3. 13.02 R B D2 R2 U' L' B R D F2 L2 U' B2 U2 F2 R2 D' F2 D' F

Generated By csTimer on 2021-10-03
avg of 5: 13.59

Time List:
1. (12.95) F U B2 L2 B2 D' B2 L2 D' L2 R' D2 L B R2 F L' F2
2. (15.66) D2 L2 D2 L2 F2 R' F2 D2 R2 F2 D2 B' R' B2 F2 U L2 D' L' F
3. 14.08 B2 R' U2 F2 D2 U2 R' F2 U2 L2 D2 B' U B2 F2 L2 D' L'
4. 13.68 L' D L2 D2 R2 F D2 B D2 U2 L2 U2 B U' F R2 B L D U'
5. 13.02 R B D2 R2 U' L' B R D F2 L2 U' B2 U2 F2 R2 D' F2 D' F

Also PB ao12!
Generated By csTimer on 2021-10-03
avg of 12: 14.68

Time List:
1. 14.29 F' L F2 U' B2 D2 R2 D R2 D' L2 U R2 U F L2 F2 D L D' B
2. (18.02) R2 U2 R2 D B2 L2 F2 R2 D' B2 D L' B2 D' B' F R' D2 U' L B'
3. (12.95) F U B2 L2 B2 D' B2 L2 D' L2 R' D2 L B R2 F L' F2
4. 15.66 D2 L2 D2 L2 F2 R' F2 D2 R2 F2 D2 B' R' B2 F2 U L2 D' L' F
5. 14.08 B2 R' U2 F2 D2 U2 R' F2 U2 L2 D2 B' U B2 F2 L2 D' L'
6. 13.68 L' D L2 D2 R2 F D2 B D2 U2 L2 U2 B U' F R2 B L D U'
7. 13.02 R B D2 R2 U' L' B R D F2 L2 U' B2 U2 F2 R2 D' F2 D' F
8. 17.26 R F' D2 R2 F' L2 B R2 B2 R2 F' D2 U2 R' B' U B L2 D U2 B
9. 15.49 L' F' R D' R L U B' L' U2 R D2 R U2 R B2 L B2 R' F2
10. 14.19 F' U2 R' B' L2 U' D2 L D' F2 B' D2 F2 R2 D2 L2 U2 F' L2 D2
11. 14.63 L' R2 U2 F' L2 F L2 D2 R2 F L D B L U2 R2 D2 R'
12. 14.54 B2 D F2 D B2 R2 U' L2 U R2 U' B2 F L B2 D' B2 R B' F L2

PB mo3!
Generated By csTimer on 2021-10-03
mean of 3: 13.48

Time List:
1. 13.79 R L D2 L' D2 B U F D2 F' R2 F2 L2 U2 R2 F2 R2 F L2 R
2. 15.26 B2 R2 F D2 U2 F' U2 F2 L2 D2 F2 R2 L' B' U' B D F' L2 U'
3. 11.40 D' B2 D2 R U' R' B' L U R2 U2 R2 F2 R U2 F2 L2 D2 R' D2 F2

PB Single (11.19)!
Scramble: U2 F2 R2 D2 R D2 F2 L' R2 U2 F2 D L' R D2 L2 F' L' B' U R2
x2 y D2 R’ F L D2 // Cross
U’ R U’ R’ U’ L’ U’ L // Pair #1
R U R’ U’ R U’ R’ y’ L’ U’ L // Pair #2
U R’ U’ R U’ R’ U R // Pair #3
U2 y’ L’ U L // Pair #4
U2 r U R’ U R U2 r’ // OLL
U R U R’ U’ R’ F R2 U’ R’ U’ R U R’ F’ U’ // PLL

PB mo3!
Generated By csTimer on 2021-10-04
mean of 3: 13.05

Time List:
1. 12.69 F L2 D L2 R2 D' R2 B2 R2 U2 L2 U2 R' B2 D' R' F' D2 B2 D L'
2. 11.99 B' U2 F D F2 R D' L2 B' U2 F2 R2 D2 B' D2 F R2 D2 B' L'
3. 14.46 D R' U2 B R2 L B R2 B U' F R2 B U2 F' R2 B2 U2 F D2 L2

Yeah, tbh Tymon would be so much better if he didn't do any ZBLL or ZBLS tricks. He's not doing himself any favors. It's better just to do LL in two steps instead of one. The fact that he turns bad OLL's into a ZBLL is even more repulsive, really just put your years of those stupid Pseudo techniques (Pseudo God, really Tymon?) and those LL influencing away. You're better off using plain old OLL and PLL for CFOP LL. It's called CFOP not PCFZ.

Considering Tymon is globally low 6 or possibly sub 6, I think he might know what works better for him then you...
Edit: realized this was a joke.(I think)

Considering Tymon is globally low 6 or possibly sub 6, I think he might know what works better for him then you...
Edit: realized this was a joke.(I think)

Sure... what about Max Park? He's faster than Tymon yet uses normal CFOP LL algs for the most part.

Also by your logic the faster you are the more knowledgeable you are. So those 8yo kids who solve it in under 8 seconds, yeah, they're much smarter than Athefre. smh

Sure... what about Max Park? He's faster than Tymon yet uses normal CFOP LL algs for the most part.

Also by your logic the faster you are the more knowledgeable you are. So those 8yo kids who solve it in under 8 seconds, yeah, they're much smarter than Athefre. smh

Glad this is a joke...
First of all, I said
I think he might know what works better for him than you…
Tymon has spent countless hours and tens of thousands of solves finding his particular skill set. Since he uses ZBLL, he obviously likes it better and does better with it than Oll+Pll.
Max is insane, but in his own way. His skill is in F2L lookahead and TPS. The speed he gets is definitely correlated to the sheer amount of practice he does. Most high level solvers have their own specialty. Like Jay says in his video, some, not all Zblls are worth it and faster. You can find out whats best for you, but don’t say Tymon would be faster with OLL+PLL when you truly have no idea.

Glad this is a joke...
First of all, I said
I think he might know what works better for him than you…
Tymon has spent countless hours and tens of thousands of solves finding his particular skill set. Since he uses ZBLL, he obviously likes it better and does better with it than Oll+Pll.
Max is insane, but in his own way. His skill is in F2L lookahead and TPS. The speed he gets is definitely correlated to the sheer amount of practice he does. Most high level solvers have their own specialty. Like Jay says in his video, some, not all Zblls are worth it and faster. You can find out whats best for you, but don’t say Tymon would be faster with OLL+PLL when you truly have no idea.

Let’s keep this on topic…
I got a PB ao12!
Generated By csTimer on 2021-10-05
avg of 12: 14.42

Time List:
1. 16.63 U R L2 F2 R2 B2 D' F2 D B2 L2 U B2 D' R' F R2 B D' R' F'
2. 12.69 F L2 D L2 R2 D' R2 B2 R2 U2 L2 U2 R' B2 D' R' F' D2 B2 D L'
3. (11.99) B' U2 F D F2 R D' L2 B' U2 F2 R2 D2 B' D2 F R2 D2 B' L'
4. 14.46 D R' U2 B R2 L B R2 B U' F R2 B U2 F' R2 B2 U2 F D2 L2
5. 14.66 R2 U2 L' U' D2 R2 U' B R2 U2 F2 R2 B2 D' R2 D2 F2 R2 B'
6. 15.01 F2 B2 D2 L' D' F2 U' R D' L2 B R2 F D2 F' D2 B2 U2 D2 R2
7. 13.17 R U' R' L' B D' R' F B L2 D2 B D2 F B2 D2 L2 D2 U
8. (17.76) D2 R' F' D F' B' U F R2 D' F2 D B2 L2 D R2 F2 D' R2 D
9. 13.53 D2 B' D' B2 D' L2 D' B2 U' L2 B2 U B' L B2 D F D R2
10. 14.49 D B2 R2 U' R2 D' L2 R2 B2 D2 L2 R D U' L U' B' F2 L U2
11. 15.89 D R' B L2 B D' F' R2 U F2 U2 F2 L' U2 R D2 L' F2 R' L2
12. 13.68 L2 D2 L' U2 R F2 D2 R F R' F' L B U L' D U