# Intuitive Square-1 Help?

#### Mallot1

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Hey I am trying to solve the Square-1 intuitively (I have never solved the Square-1). I have solved the first two layers, but I am stuck on the last layer (I have multiple center pieces in the same spot, and some of the corners need to be swapped. Anyone have any tips or hints (please no spoilers)? All help is greatly appreciated! Thanks

#### DGCubes

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Huh, I've never seen a layer by layer method used on Square-1. That doesn't mean it's impossible though; just probably not efficient. I'd recommend doing some educated-guess-type algorithms and recording them all as you do them so you can A) go back if you need to and B) have useful algorithms written down if you find any.

If instead you want to stop using a layer by layer method, I'd recommend:
Try getting it back to a cube first.

#### Competition Cuber

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Huh, I've never seen a layer by layer method used on Square-1. That doesn't mean it's impossible though; just probably not efficient. I'd recommend doing some educated-guess-type algorithms and recording them all as you do them so you can A) go back if you need to and B) have useful algorithms written down if you find any.

If instead you want to stop using a layer by layer method, I'd recommend:
Try getting it back to a cube first.
Or he can use your tutorial.

#### Oatch

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Or he can use your tutorial.
I reckon that would completely defeat the purpose of the OP trying to figure it out for himself and solving it intuitively. Most square-1 tutorials out that I know of are pretty much all heavily algorithmic.

#### Mallot1

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Thanks for your help everyone. I agree with what you all are saying, I will probably grab some paper and start writing and coming up with algorithms like I did for some other puzzles. Thanks everyone!

#### Mallot1

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Thanks for your help everyone. I agree with what you all are saying, I will probably grab some paper and start writing and coming up with algorithms like I did for some other puzzles. Thanks everyone!
Also, thanks for marking the spoilers with the spoilers tag DGCubes very appreciated! (I didn't read the spoilers. Maybe once I've solved it first.)