Timona
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Do I have to learn Cross+1? Why can't I just work on improving F2L and lookahead?
You can do exactly that, but there's a point where improving in that results in such minimal time gain that you should learn a new technique.Do I have to learn Cross+1? Why can't I just work on improving F2L and lookahead?
I don't understand.All right, I am back with another query on intuitive F2L vs algorithmic F2L. So here,
What ottozing was implying, as I could tell, was that learning algorithms for F2L can really benefit in F2L lookahead. However, this definitely puts down efficiency which is the strong point intuitive F2L, but is such a compromise worth it in the context of a speedsolve? I would like to seek some opinions on this.
F2L 31I don't understand.
F2L is intuitive, but it becomes an algorithmic when you can do it without thinking. I don't see the difference between those two, so could you provide me with an example of the same F2L case solved intuitively and algorithmically?
It really depends on what you mean by intuitive F2L, because to me everything about F2L is intuitive.
I would consider both intuitive and algorithmic, with the difference that the second one is slightly more advanced.F2L 31
Intuitive solution - R U' R' y' R' U2 R(take out the pair, rotate and insert into the back)
Algorithmic solution - U' R' F R F' R U' R'
What exactly do you need help on? Memorization? Fingertricks? You can find algs for all of these on speedcubedb.com, as for memorization, just group the moves into "triggers", so for example, here's Na:I need help learning these PLL's: Na, Nb, Aa, Ab, Ra, Rb, Ga, Gb, Gc, and Gd. If anybody could help me, it would be very appreciated!
so why do OLL last and not PLL?Learn full PLL first as it only has 21 algorithms. F2L should be mostly intuitive, so you can figure out how to do it yourself. Experiment and try things around to get to a three move insert (R U R', F' U F) or pairing the two pieces up. Try to figure out the shortest way to get to those three cases. For the cases that you're stuck on/can't figure out a short way to do, look for them here and here.
Tackle OLL last, it's mostly algorithmic, but you can also try some moves for yourself (take out an F2L pair, do something with it, then put it back). Again, you can go on speedcubedb to search the cases. Also some cases are mirrors of each other, so if you don't want to learn the alg you can just do leftie. For example R U R' U R U2 R' becomes L' U' L U' L' U2 L
OLL has 56 (or 57 I can't remember) algorithms, a lot more than PLL.so why do OLL last and not PLL?
btw I'm using CFOP 2 look since right now I'm moving from beginner to CFOP, so thats whyOLL has 56 (or 57 I can't remember) algorithms, a lot more than PLL.
I need help with memorizing CFOP to enter in to comp because my PB is only sub 45
one thing. there arn't really any turnomants because im on a semi tropical islandOn a separate note: if you can, you should totally go to a competition no matter what you average! Competitions are awesome social events and they can also be a great way to motivate yourself to improve.
because I cant memorize itI need someone to help me through the gurney of learning CFOP
I got you.because I cant memorize it
CFOP beginners algs you mean right.I need help with memorizing CFOP to enter in to comp because my PB is only sub 45
Sorry, no, but skype works.I got you.
Do you have discord?
yeaCFOP beginners algs you mean right.
It consists of intuitive F2L, 2-look OLL and 2-look PLL.
Good luck learning and drilling these algs in CFOP!