[Help Thread] How to Get Faster using the Fridrich / CFOP Method

[Exmestify]

Learn efficient ways to do your F2L by watching walkthrough solves, or looking at algs for some of the more difficult cases. Learn good fingertricks, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to start learning color neutralality while it's easier.

Um.... ok. ill try that

 

[leemer21]

PB:16.997

 

[joshisbored]

Ive been cubing for a couple months, and i cant break the sub 30 mark. I solve cross in 3 ish seconds, and what i do for f2l is i put the pair in, but not correctly, and do one of 5 algorithims to solve. im looking to learn full f2l, but its hard, but i think i can, as ive developed a method to learn algorithims. i use 2-look oll and am planning to learn pll, but i do 2 look rn. (cube: moyu rs3m, pr: 32 seconds)

 

[OldSwiss]

Never heard of this method. You put wrong F2L Pairs together and then repair it?
Just do the correct F2L Pairing and I guess you will easily hit the 30s

F2L is not that hard to learn. You don't have to learn all the F2L cases
Intuitive F2L is basically just 3 cases.

• Same color up -> Hide Corner along the white side and put edge next to it
• Different color up -> Place Edge across the corner along the white side of the corner
• White up -> Put edge on top of same middle piece, turn face away from other color and place corner on top

The rest ist just bringing the pieces into the upper layer.

It's hard to describe, so better watch a video.
I can't recommend you a video because i've learned it in german but I guess JPerm has, like always, one that is easy to understand.
Feliks "cubeskills" has also some good tutorials


It's easy to understand concepts but it takes a bit of practice to get into it.

 

[joshisbored]

kind of, but i put the pair in like this

 

[espeed]

Really don't do this. Put the pair together right in the first place. You probably lose 3 or 4 seconds for every pair

 

[OldSwiss]

kind of, but i put the pair in like this

I still think that's a stupid idea, but it has one advantage. I guess you are quite good at these five F2L cases now.

Prabably I use this method to train these specific F2L cases.
In the moment I do 90% intuitive F2L but I planned to memorize some special cases like these to reduce thinking in F2L

But In your case, if you already found the two pieces it's not much work to put them together correctly

 

[Garf]

Ive been cubing for a couple months, and i cant break the sub 30 mark. I solve cross in 3 ish seconds, and what i do for f2l is i put the pair in, but not correctly, and do one of 5 algorithims to solve. im looking to learn full f2l, but its hard, but i think i can, as ive developed a method to learn algorithims. i use 2-look oll and am planning to learn pll, but i do 2 look rn. (cube: moyu rs3m, pr: 32 seconds)

kind of, but i put the pair in like this

Don't do this. This is a very bad way to do f2l and limits your way to piece together pieces. If you just learn to solve pieces with slow solves, you will be able to solve much faster. I am sub-12 and I know what I am talking about.

 

[joshisbored]

thank you

Don't do this. This is a very bad way to do f2l and limits your way to piece together pieces. If you just learn to solve pieces with slow solves, you will be able to solve much faster. I am sub-12 and I know what I am talking about.

I still think that's a stupid idea, but it has one advantage. I guess you are quite good at these five F2L cases now.

Prabably I use this method to train these specific F2L cases.
In the moment I do 90% intuitive F2L but I planned to memorize some special cases like these to reduce thinking in F2L

But In your case, if you already found the two pieces it's not much work to put them together correctly

yeah thats smarter lol

 

[Andy Chakarov]

How do you do 2 side recognition for E perms? I sometimes think I got a Y perm so I mess them up

 

[Lio2010]

On a y perm the two corners left and right would have the same colour

 

[Lio2010]

Or if you look from the ither direction, there OS a Bar everytime in a y Perm

 

[SpedCube]

Any tips on how to get better at memorizing the oll/pll algorithms?

 

[Filipe Teixeira]

Any tips on how to get better at memorizing the oll/pll algorithms?

this video has good tips

 

[hyn]

How do you do 2 side recognition for E perms? I sometimes think I got a Y perm so I mess them up

https://cubing.pt/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/pll2side-20140531.pdf

 

[great cuber]

Hello, "great" cuber here. I currently average under 18 secs on 3x3. During my F2L process, It's actually quite difficult to find pairs. I don't look at my current pair.

 

[ProStar]

Hello, "great" cuber here. I currently average under 18 secs on 3x3. During my F2L process, It's actually quite difficult to find pairs. I don't look at my current pair.

Try to turn a bit slower and look ahead to what you’re going to solve next. Do slow solves where you turn as slow as you need in order to not pause at all. Then you can work on turning faster while maintaining lookahead

 

[great cuber]

Try to turn a bit slower and look ahead to what you’re going to solve next. Do slow solves where you turn as slow as you need in order to not pause at all. Then you can work on turning faster while maintaining lookahead

I'm turning much slower than before, but I still struggle to find pairs even if I track them. Do you have any tips on tracking pieces, knowing where to look, etc. Basically anything that doesn't have to do with being able to track pieces?

 

[Cubing Coukie]

Hello ! I've got quite an important question : does it really matter where i get my algorithms from and if it does where should i get them from ?
I began learning 1 look oll with jperm's video but i hesitate to switch to either his website or algdb.net to learn the rest of them. Like can one source be objectively better than an other or should i just try a bunch of them and see which one fits me the most ?
Thanks in advance !

 

[d---]

Just try them all
Maybe time about 100 solves of each to see which one is fastest