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icarneiro

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WORK ON YOUR F2L NOW!!!!

20 seconds is too much! if you learn now full 1look OLL, you wont decrease your time considerable.
and whenever you practice your F2L, you will make your 2look oll and 1 look pll faster and faster...

when you become sub-20, work in your look ahead and learn some new 1look OLL cases to save time
i guess 1look OLL is the last step, because save about 1... 1.5 seconds in your solve

full PLL in 3 weeks of learning CFOP is too fast, congrats!
Good luck!
 

Jeff Dunham

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@icarneiro and @OreKehStrah

Would you suggest using a resource like J perm's f2l pdf to learn some efficient algorithms for certain cases? Just looked over it, I actually know 22 out of the 41 basic cases (some algorithmically, but majority muscle memory) not 12.
 
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@icarneiro and @OreKehStrah

Would you suggest using a resource like J perm's f2l pdf to learn some efficient algorithms for certain cases? Just looked over it, I actually know 22 out of the 41 basic cases (some algorithmically, but majority muscle memory) not 12.
I think the pdf is good. Also watch jperms cross videos to get cross consistently under 6 seconds
 

icarneiro

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@icarneiro and @OreKehStrah

Would you suggest using a resource like J perm's f2l pdf to learn some efficient algorithms for certain cases? Just looked over it, I actually know 22 out of the 41 basic cases (some algorithmically, but majority muscle memory) not 12.
I learned watching the jperm and BrodyTheCuber videos, I have to print the jperm pdf to learn some specific cases too
 

Izaden

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I am learning CFOP, I have been using a beginners method previously. I learned to solve the cube about a year and a half ago but never worked on getting better until the past weekish.
Old Method:
  1. White cross oriented and permuted [O+P](With white face up)
  2. White corners O+P (1st layer)
  3. Second layer O+P
  4. Yellow cross O
  5. Yellow cross P
  6. Last 4 corners P
  7. Last 4 corners O (I believe 4-7 is BLL?)
So that's what I've been doing. I can get about 1:15-1:45 with that method depending on the scramble.
I am now transitioning to CFOP and my times are worse at about 1:45-2:30 but that it mainly because I am pausing during f2l a lot as I am learning cases
Current Method:
  1. white cross in 8 or less moves (yellow face up)
  2. F2L (Lots of pausing to decide what pair and what case, trying to be intuitive)
  3. BLL same as above as I am focusing on cross and F2L right now, will learn OLL & PLL later
What I want to ask is am I going about this in the right way, trying to optimise cross and F2L FIRST (And learning finger tricks) before getting in to OLL & PLL? or am I going about this all wrong?
 

GAN 356 X

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If you are looking for something personalised, try Jayden McNeil. It's pricey, and I haven't tried it, but it's meant to be amazing
Brody the cuber also does lessons, and J perm does critiques if you support him on Patreon I believe. I would recommend signing up for Jayden Mcneil's newsletter. apart from helping me improve it also makes me laugh
 

Tavin25

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Thanks, guys I will try Jayden Mcneil.

Gus Cyotheking is the best. It has great oll and pll algs. I would recommend for beginners as I have already learned 2 oll algs.
 

Iwannaganx

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No disrespect intended, but please do not try Jayden’s services. I think that even he would agree that for your level, you should just try online resources, and he would probably just point you to those if you submitted some of your solves. Try J perm.
Yes, buying the improvement plan or whatever is probably not a good idea. But subscribe to his newsletter, it's really good
 

Dystro

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Hey everyone,

I just started cubing two months ago and I am averaging at 25 seconds. I started to learn all the pll algorithms, but I feel like my times don't improve much.
I need about 3 seconds for cross, 12 seconds for F2l, 3 seconds for OLL and 6 seconds for PLL.
Do you have any tips what I should be working on?
Thank you in advance!
 
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Dystro

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Record an ao5 or ao12, see how much time you spend in:

Cross
F2L
OLL
PLL

And tell us, this will help to understand in what you have to improve.
I need about 3 seconds for cross, 12 seconds for F2l, 3 seconds for oll and 6 seconds for pll.
 

PetrusQuber

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PLL is worth it in the end, including recognition, you can cut off about 3 seconds.
Try out X Cross, and make sure you know all your F2L algs in your muscle memory. Also, welcome to the forums!
 

Tabe

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Hey everyone,

I just started cubing two months ago and I am averaging at 25 seconds. I started to learn all the pll algorithms, but I feel like my times don't improve much.
I need about 3 seconds for cross, 12 seconds for F2l, 3 seconds for OLL and 6 seconds for PLL.
Do you have any tips what I should be working on?
Thank you in advance!
F2L. It's half your current solve times and has lots of room for improvement.
 
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