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How good are my splits?

From what I can tell, compared to other people I know, my ll times are way longer than theirs.

I average sub 12 and my splits look something like this

Cross + F2L : 5-7
OLL : 1-3 sec
PLL : 1.5-3.5 sec

Is it normal that my LL times take up around half my solve time?

FYI I know full PLL and half of full OLL.

PLL algs i have issues with : G perms, V perms, N perms
I'm not color neutral either.

Am I the outlier or are the people I know the ones with weird splits? Also, what should I be working on?
 
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PDF Version of this Guide - March 23, 2013

Welcome! This thread will be a guide to help you get faster at solving the Rubik’s Cube using the popular Fridrich/CFOP method. Please read this thread and do some forum searching prior to asking questions about becoming faster.

First off, the most important factor is practice. No matter what method you use, or how many algorithms you know, you need to practice a lot to progress. With practice, you will be able to turn the cube faster, recognize cases ore quickly, and just in general gain a better understanding of the cube. You can even get sub 20 averages with a beginner’s method - but only if you practice a lot. No other factor is more important. So if you’re getting stuck, chances are you aren’t practicing enough!

Of course, we want to know to know how to practice to find the most efficient way to improve. Here are some basics steps to help you get faster. You do not have to follow these steps, as they are only meant to guide you.

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Step 1
Current Average: 1:30+ or don't know how to solve a Rubik's Cube
Goal Average: 1:00-1:19

Learn how to solve the cube from here: Badmephisto's Youtube Video Tutorial He teaches you a simplified version of CFOP that will help you easily progress later on.
NOTE: It is possible to achieve below one minute with this method, just by practicing. If you are still stuck, follow these tips:
  • Get a better cube. Cubes like the Dayan ZhanChi and Dayan GuHong v2 are great – they allow for effortless turning and corner cutting. Lubricate your cube too – a decent method is using silicone spray, but using silicone oil is better.
  • Use finger tricks (this will speed up your times A LOT). You can become better at finger tricks by practicing.
  • Decrease your last layer time (to about 25 seconds or less) - you can do this by improving your recognition and execution for each case (to do this you must practice)
  • Try to reduce pauses, meaning, try to never stop turning during your solve. This can be done by practicing a lot!
  • Work on the cross. Try to do the cross in 12 moves or less, and under 12 seconds. Here is a link that will help you achieve/learn this (and then practice it a lot): http://cubefreak.net/speed/cfop/cross.php
  • Practice - The more you practice, the faster you'll become
  • Once you get a little used to the beginner method, you can also try inserting the first layer/side corners from different angles. See Macky's guide: http://cubefreak.net/speed/cfop/f2l_extensions.php
  • Use a timer to see your progression: You can use web based timers or PC timers.
Estimated Time: 2-4 weeks

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Step 2
Current Average: 1:00-1:19
Goal Average: 40-49 seconds

Learning 4 Look Last Layer (4LLL). This means solving the last layer in 4 steps – consisting of Orienting the Last Layer in 2 steps (2 Look OLL), and Permuting the Last Layer in 2 steps (2 Look PLL).

2 Look OLL
  • Edge Orientation - 3 algorithms (technically 2)
  • Corner Orientation - 7 algorithms
2 Look PLL
  • Corner Permutation - 2 Algorithms Aa/Ab and E/V/Y/Na/Nb
  • Edge Permutation - 4 algorithms - Ua, Ub, Z, H
Here are some links explaining how to use the 4LLL (2 Look OLL + 2 Look PLL) algorithms for your last layer:
Estimated Time: 2-4 weeks

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Step 3
Current Average: 40-49 seconds
Goal Average: 30-39 seconds

  • Now learn intuitive First Two Layers (F2L).
  • Your times will temporarily worsen, but after a few days of practicing, they will significantly become better!
  • Practice your F2L A LOT, and never give up!
Estimated Time: 2-4 weeks

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Step 4
Current Average: 30-39 seconds
Goal Average: 20-29 seconds

  • Now, learn the rest of the PLL algorithms. Full PLL is 21 Algorithms (you have already learned 7 algorithms for 2-Look PLL) (Links where to learn the algorithms are at the bottom of this guide).
  • Learn how to look ahead during F2L - this will TREMENDOUSLY help your times. Looking ahead is one of the most important aspects of improving.
Estimated Time: 2-6 weeks

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Step 5
Current Average: 20-29 seconds
Goal Average: 15-19 seconds

  • Practice your F2L, learn/make up your own techniques, and possibly learn some of the algorithms for odd cases. (Links where to learn the F2L algorithms are at the bottom of this guide) Also, remember to look ahead (this is EXTREMELY important)! Try to complete your cross and F2L in 12 seconds or less on average.
  • Work on improving your speed for your OLLs and PLLs. Use triggers, and try to get all of the algorithms under 3 seconds for recognition and execution.
  • Get your cross below 4 seconds consistently (make sure you solve the cross on the bottom of the cube.)

Estimated Time: 1-2 months

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Step 6
Current Average: Sub 20 Seconds
Goal Average: Below 15 seconds

  • Get your cross and F2L done in under 10 seconds
  • Get your cross done in ~2 seconds on average
  • Learn how to do Extended Cross (x-cross)
  • Learn the rest of the OLL algorithms - 57 algorithms (Note that learning the OLLs will only help you by 2 second or less)
  • To learn/memorize the OLL's easier look at Badmephisto's video
  • Practice, practice, and keep on practicing!!!
Estimated Time: 4+ months

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Step 7 (written by PoHos1)
Current Average: Below 15 Seconds
Goal Average: Sub10 or around 10

  • Practice a lot f2l try to allways see first pair in f2l (inspection time)
  • Get your cross done in about 1.5 seconds
  • Practice yours Extended Cross (x-cross)
  • learn all pll and oll about 1.5 seconds like your cross
  • (also you can learn COLL if you want some time can help )
  • Practice, practice, and keep on practicing!!!
Estimated Time: its only on you (at least 6 mounts)

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F2L Algorithms:
OLL Algorithms:
PLL Algorithms:
You should print out your OLLs/PLLs so you can learn them and use them at any time. Keep in mind that you should choose the algorithms that best suit you. Just because one person is fast with an algorithm doesn't mean you will be fast with the same algorithm.

**The information provided in this thread was contributed by members in this post**
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Over the past few weeks my times have been going up. I’ve been using the same method and same cube (about to switch) but my times have been going up from sub-25 to sub-30. What should I do? (I use CFOP and my main is a little magic m)
 
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Are you trying to be funny?

Over the past few weeks my times have been going up. I’ve been using the same method and same cube (about to switch) but my times have been going up from sub-25 to sub-30. What should I do? (I use CFOP and my main is a little magic m)
There are a million possible reasons why this could have happened, and it's impossible to divine which of them are applicable to you. When you say you were "sub-25" and now you're "sub-30", what specifically do you mean by that? Were you doing daily ao50s, or what? What times were you getting?

Without knowing specifics, my generic advice is to take a break from cubing and do something else for a while. Being frustrated makes practice sessions significantly less useful (unless you have the kind of discipline that professional gamblers have, and you probably don't).
 
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Hi guys! OK, I am struggling on being sub 20.

Algs I know:

Full OLL and Full PLL

and

A very large handful of F2L algorithms.

I got the last layer algorithms from Cubeskills and the F2L algs from J Perm (Youtuber)

I also practice a lot.
If some could tell me how long each step of CFOP should take that would be helpful.


Apart from looking ahead could someone give me some tips?
 
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Do some reconstructions of your solves so you can figure out how efficient you are at your solves. Are you doing 80 turns? 40 turns? That makes a huge difference. Also what is your TPS?

If your TPS is 5 then all you need is for your solution to take 100 turns or less to be sub 20. And 100 turns is terrible.
 
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Hi guys! OK, I am struggling on being sub 20.

Algs I know:

Full OLL and Full PLL

and

A very large handful of F2L algorithms.

I got the last layer algorithms from Cubeskills and the F2L algs from J Perm (Youtuber)

I also practice a lot.
If some could tell me how long each step of CFOP should take that would be helpful.


Apart from looking ahead could someone give me some tips?
No. At this stage all you really need is to drill your f2l solutions and lookahead. I’m sorry, if you know all of those algs I wouldn’t really be able to recommend anything else.
 
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Taken from here: https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...aining-that-yields-systematic-progress.39406/
Ideal splits: cross 12%, F2L (inc cross) 62%, OLL 16.5% (inc recog and AUF), PLL 21.5% (inc recognition and AUF)
So for averaging 20 your splits should be:
cross - 2.4s
f2l(excluding cross) - 10s
oll - 3.3s
pll - 4.3
So time your splits on cstimer, and if any part is way off from those splits then focus on that part, otherwise just work on your solve overall
 
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Do some reconstructions of your solves so you can figure out how efficient you are at your solves. Are you doing 80 turns? 40 turns? That makes a huge difference. Also what is your TPS?

If your TPS is 5 then all you need is for your solution to take 100 turns or less to be sub 20. And 100 turns is terrible.
The thing is my tablet broke because I did that.
 
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Asking this here cuz barely got responses on reddit.

It took me about 600 solves in the span of 3 weeks for my ao100 to drop from mid 22 ish to sub 20. However about half of those solves were in the past week (was spreading out time to practice other events)

Is this rate of improvement slow? Lol

FYI I'm using CFOP 2LLL. Started 7 months ago on online simulators but got my first cube 5 months ago.
 
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Asking this here cuz barely got responses on reddit.

It took me about 600 solves in the span of 3 weeks for my ao100 to drop from mid 22 ish to sub 20. However about half of those solves were in the past week (was spreading out time to practice other events)

Is this rate of improvement slow? Lol

FYI I'm using CFOP 2LLL. Started 7 months ago on online simulators but got my first cube 5 months ago.
That seems like a pretty solid improvement rate, actually. At around the 20-second mark, it seems that a lot of people take roughly 1-3 months to drop 1 second from their global average. Some people improve a lot faster, some people improve slower, and some people get stuck at/above 20 seconds.
 
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That seems like a pretty solid improvement rate, actually. At around the 20-second mark, it seems that a lot of people take roughly 1-3 months to drop 1 second from their global average. Some people improve a lot faster, some people improve slower, and some people get stuck at/above 20 seconds.
Hmm I guess I'll have to see how long it takes for me to drop to 19, 18 etc.

Also by any chance does anyone know what the average time is for a person who cubes for exactly one year?
 
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I started to play cubes in 2017, and my 3*3's average of 100 is about 10.7. It stayed for too long that I feel it is difficult to improve more. I just want to get sub-10 in a quicker time. What kind of algs should I learn? Are there any skiils about look-ahead or get better on F2Ls? Could you please give me some advice?
(I learned all of the CFOP algs and a bit WV, COLL.)
(If you can't understand my English, I'm sorry about that because I'm not quite good at English and I hardly ever send English passages.)
 
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