# hellocubers' quest to become sub-30 and then sub-20 with cfop.

#### hellocubers

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New Roux PB: 37.412

#### hellocubers

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Been a while since i posted here. anyway, Roux PB: 35.012 PB and the most craziest thing in my life, 2x2 PB! 1.944! scramble if you want: U2 F R' U' R F U2 F' U

#### LukasCubes

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Been a while since i posted here. anyway, Roux PB: 35.012 PB and the most craziest thing in my life, 2x2 PB! 1.944! scramble if you want: U2 F R' U' R F U2 F' U
please learn waterman. I plan on making a beginner tutorial tomorrow.

#### hellocubers

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please learn waterman. I plan on making a beginner tutorial tomorrow.
Been learning some waterman. It's just when you do stuff with the LU and Redges that make me confused.

#### PiKeeper

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Been learning some waterman. It's just when you do stuff with the LU and Redges that make me confused.
If your goal is to become world class, I'd advise not using waterman. I'd you genuinely enjoy it then fine, but there are some noticeable flaws in the methods that keep it from being as good as roux, cfop, or ZZ.

#### LukasCubes

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Been learning some waterman. It's just when you do stuff with the LU and Redges that make me confused.
Ok Beginner Waterman:

Layer but minus an edge (Waterman Layer)
Rest of Corners (CLL)
Do a rotation so the Waterman Layer is now the L Layer and the missing edge is the LU Edge
Solve all of the now R Edges (ERL)
Do one of 8 Algorithms to solve the last Ledge while orienting the midges (L5E a)
Permute the Midges (L5E b)

the 8 algs could turn into 16 if you dont want to do setup moves (thats just D2). I plan on making a Waterman Beginner tutorial later today. I might DM it to you when im done.

#### hellocubers

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Ahem.
New roux PB!: 34.19

#### hellocubers

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wtf?????? mine is still 21.234...
and my 2x2 PB is faster than yours!
Edit: wait yours is still faster...

#### CubeRed

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Nice!

It’s nice for keeping track of progress, but not necessary imo
I don't really think it will help keep progress in track sinceI never record Ao5 PBs and my PB single is 9.92 so I don't think I will have marginal improvement on that for a couple of months.

#### BenChristman1

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I've not yet made a PB sheet. Should I make one?
Shameless self-promotion incoming…

If you decide to make one, you can use the template in my signature!