[Unofficial] Heise Method: 19.52 avg5 and 14.75 single

porkynator · Jun 25, 2013

The 16.20 (L3C skip lol) is +2, so the actual average is 19.52.
Last solve is really bad: 3 commutators for 4 corners

Both the single and the average are my PBs with Heise. It took me 2 hours to get the average, after many fails like: 17, 19, 18, 29, 40.
I average around 25-27, but I think that with some more practice stable sub20 is possible.
Sorry for the bad angle, but I couldn't find a better place for my camera (which is actually a phone).

Egide · Jun 25, 2013

nice, what's your average move count?

coldsun0630 · Jun 25, 2013

good!

Ross The Boss · Jun 25, 2013

wow. could you make some walkthrough videos of this? i tries to learn it from his website but i have a really hard time understanding text tutorials.

porkynator · Jun 25, 2013

Egide said:
nice, what's your average move count?

When I do slow solves and I count the moves it's around 50, when I do speedsolves probably a bit more (my blockbuilding isn't that good).

Ross The Boss said:
wow. could you make some walkthrough videos of this? i tries to learn it from his website but i have a really hard time understanding text tutorials.

I never did something like this, but I will try

kasochi · Jun 25, 2013

Heise must be smartest method. Nice avg and single!
I also would like to learn it.

Ross The Boss · Jun 25, 2013

kasochi said:
Heise must be smartest method. Nice avg and single!
I also would like to learn it.

the snyder method is pretty "smart".

kasochi · Jun 25, 2013

Ross The Boss said:
the snyder method is pretty "smart".

No doubt. I prefer heise to snyder, though

Ross The Boss · Jun 25, 2013

kasochi said:
No doubt. I prefer heise to snyder, though

snyder is ridic hard. took me a week to figure out how to do it.

vince · Jun 25, 2013

+1 for videos
I'd like to learn the method
I go with roux and I like blockbuilding

Cool Frog · Jun 25, 2013

Snyder method is just Triple X-Cross method with Fish N' Chips LL
Heise is a neat method. I wonder what your movecount was in these speedsolves.

Brest · Jul 21, 2013

Sebastiano Tronto - Heise Method solves

[youtubehd]uypTxhL0WPs[/youtubehd]

y' D B2 U' F2 U' L2 U2 B2 U' R2 U2 L' B' D' R B' U' F U' B2 F'

R U R' F' L' D U2 R U' R' // 2x2x2
y2 R U' R U R' F2 // 2x2x3
R' U R2 U R' U2 R U' R U R' U' R y R' F2 R // 2x2x1
y' U' R' // EO
y L' U' L U2 L' U2 L U' // leave 3 corners
y U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	17.40	50	2.87	56	3.22

y' D B2 U' F2 U' L2 U2 B2 U' R2 U2 L' B' D' R B' U' F U' B2 F'

R U R' F' L' D U2 R U' R' // 2x2x2
L y2 U' R U R' F2 // 2x2x3
R' U R R U R' U2 R U' R U R' U' R y R' F2 R // 2x2x1
y' U' R' // EO
y L' U' L U2 L' U2 L U' // leave 3 corners
y' y2 U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

y' L2 D2 B' D2 L2 B' L2 R2 B F2 R2 D' R B' R2 D' L2 D' U B F'

y' x // inspection
L2' U2 F' L R2 U2' // 2x2x2
x y' r U' r' U2' L' U R U' x U R' U' l U2' L R2 // 2x2x3
R U' R' y L' U2 L // 2x1x1
y2' R' F R F' y L' U2 L y' // EO
U' R U2 R' U R U R' // 2x1x1
U R U R' U' // leave 3 corners
z y2 U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R' U' R U r // leave 2 corners
x2 U r' D2 r U' B2 U r' D2 r U' B2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	22.46	75	3.34	96	4.27

y' L2 D2 B' D2 L2 B' L2 R2 B F2 R2 D' R B' R2 D' L2 D' U B F'

y' x // inspection
L2' U2 F' L R2 U' U' // 2x2x2
y x' z y r U' r' U' U' L' U R U' x U R' U' l U' U' L R2 // 2x2x3
R U' R' y L' U2 L // 2x1x1
y2' R' F R F' y L' U2 L y' // EO
U' R U2 R' U R U R' // 2x1x1
U R U R' U' // leave 3 corners
y x' y U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R' U' R U r // leave 2 corners
x2 U r' D D r U' x' U2 x U r' D D r U' x' U2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

y' B2 R2 U2 B2 L2 U' B2 L2 B2 L2 D' B F2 R' D' U2 F R' D' R2 D'

z' // inspection
l' U' l U' (x z') R' L' D' R U2 R' // 2x2x2
y L U2 L' U y' L' U2' L' U L // 2x2x3
y2' L' U' L y' U2' R U' R U2 R U R U2' R // 2x1x1
R' F R F' y // EO
U' L' U L U2 L' U2 L U // 2x1x1
z2 R2 U F2 U' b2' U F2 U' b2' R2 // 3 pair cycle
y' x U L U' R2 U L' U' R2 // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	30.47	85	2.79	110	3.61

y' B2 R2 U2 B2 L2 U' B2 L2 B2 L2 D' B F2 R' D' U2 F R' D' R2 D'

z' // inspection
l' U' l U' (x z') R' L' D' R U2 R' // 2x2x2
y L U2 L' U y' L' U' U' L' U L // 2x2x3
U2 y' L' U L L' U' L y' U2 L' U' L y' U' U' R U' R2' U' U R' U2 R U R U' U' R // 2x1x1
y y' R' F R y L' // 3O
U' L' U L U2 L' U L L' U L // 2x1x1
U L' U' L U2' y' y U2 L' U L // place last midge
y' (y' x') x' R2 U F F U' b' b' U F F U' b' b' R2 // 3 pair cycle
x2 y x' U L U' R2 U L' U' R2 // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

y' D2 R' L' F' B' D B' R B2 D L B2 U B2 D2 L2 D R2 F2 U' F2

x y' // inspection
R' U' D' z F' R U L2' L' U L // 2x2x2
U R U' R' U R' y R U2' R // 2x2x3
y' R U' R y l' U2 R U2' R' U2 R U x' // 2x1x1
F R U R' U' F' // EO
U R U' R' U2 R // 2x1x1
U R' U R U' R' U2 // finish
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]	
Total	16.20	51	3.15	64	3.95

y' D2 R' L' F' B' D B' R B2 D L B2 U B2 D2 L2 D R2 F2 U' F2

x y' // inspection
R' U' D' (x y) U' x' R x x' U L2' L' U L // 2x2x2
U R U' R' U R' y R' R2 U' U' R // 2x2x3
y' R U' R' R2 y l' U2 R U' U' R' U2 R x' F // 2x1x1
F R U R' U' y L' y' // EO
U R U' R' U2 R // 2x1x1
U R' U R U' R' U (U) // finish
View at alg.garron.us

y' U2 L2 B' U2 F2 L2 R2 F L2 F2 D L2 U R B2 R' F L B2 L2

y // inspection
L D l' U R U' // 2x2x2
x' U2 L2' (y x) U R' U' l // 2x2x3
y R U' R U R' U' R U R2 U' R' // 2x1x1
y U2' R' F R F' y // EO
U' L' U' L U2 // L4C
y' L D' L' U' L D L' U y U R' D R U R' D' R U2' // 2 twist
x U r' D2' r U' B2 U r' D2' r U' B2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	17.90	63	3.52	78	4.36

y' U2 L2 B' U2 F2 L2 R2 F L2 F2 D L2 U R B2 R' F L B2 L2

y // inspection
L D l' U R U' // 2x2x2
x' U2 L2' (y x) U R' U' l // 2x2x3
y R U' R' R2 U R' U' R U R2 U' R' // 2x1x1
y U' U' R' F R y L' // EO
U' L' U' L U2 // L4C
y' L D' L' U' L D L' U y U R' D R U R' D' R U' U' // 2 twist
x U r' D' D' r U' x' U2 x U r' D' D' r U' x' U2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

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Average (removing fastest and slowest solve)
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]	
Total	19.25	62.67	3.25	76.67	3.98

Mean (5/5)
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	20.89	64.80	3.10	80.80	3.87

Best from each field
[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	16.20	50	3.52	56	4.36

[youtubehd]OFiFkMrYsE8[/youtubehd]

y' U' R B2 D' L' F' B' U' L B R2 D2 B' R2 U2 B' R2 D2 B' D2

x' y // inspection
R2 U R2 // 2x2x1
(x' y) r U r' U' r' // 2x2x2
y d' x L' U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') R U R' F2 R // XXcross
d' R U R' U R U R' // 3rd pair
y' L' U L U' L' U2 L // 2x1x1
U2 L' U' L U // leave 3 corners
(y' z') L2' U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L' // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	14.75	45	3.05	54	3.66

y' U' R B2 D' L' F' B' U' L B R2 D2 B' R2 U2 B' R2 D2 B' D2

x' y // inspection
R2 U R2 // 2x2x1
(x' y) r U r' U' r' // 2x2x2
y d' x L' U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') R U R' F2 R // XXcross
d' R U R' U R U R' // 3rd pair
y' L' U L U' L' U U L // 2x1x1
U2 L' U' L U' U' U' // leave 3 corners
(y' z') L2' U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L' // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

y' B' U' F' B2 R2 U' R' L B' R' D2 R2 B D2 R2 B D2 R2 F2 B' D2

x2 // inspection
R' U x U2 L' // 2x1x1
U (x' y') D R2 // 2x2x2
U L' U L U' L U2 r U2 B' U' L U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') U' R U R' F U F2R
y R U' R' y // EO
U L' U L // 2x1x1
y' U' L d' L' U' L d L' // 3 pair cycle
(x y2) L D' L' U' L D L' U // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps[/B]
Total	17.92	50	2.79	60	3.35

y' B' U' F' B2 R2 U' R' L B' R' D2 R2 B D2 R2 B D2 R2 F2 B' D2

x2 // inspection
R' U x U2 L' // 2x1x1
U (x' y') D R2 // 2x2x2
U L' U L U' L U2 r U U x' U' x U' L U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') U' R U R' F U F2R// F2L-1
y R U' R' y // EO
U L' U L // 2x1x1
y' U2 U L d' L' U' L d L' // 3 pair cycle
(x y2) L D' L' U' L D L' U // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

porkynator · Aug 1, 2013

Brest said:
Sebastiano Tronto - Heise Method solves

[youtubehd]uypTxhL0WPs[/youtubehd]

y' D B2 U' F2 U' L2 U2 B2 U' R2 U2 L' B' D' R B' U' F U' B2 F'

R U R' F' L' D U2 R U' R' // 2x2x2
y2 R U' R U R' F2 // 2x2x3
R' U R2 U R' U2 R U' R U R' U' R y R' F2 R // 2x2x1
y' U' R' // EO
y L' U' L U2 L' U2 L U' // leave 3 corners
y U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 17.40 50 2.87 56 3.22

y' D B2 U' F2 U' L2 U2 B2 U' R2 U2 L' B' D' R B' U' F U' B2 F'

R U R' F' L' D U2 R U' R' // 2x2x2
L y2 U' R U R' F2 // 2x2x3
R' U R R U R' U2 R U' R U R' U' R y R' F2 R // 2x2x1
y' U' R' // EO
y L' U' L U2 L' U2 L U' // leave 3 corners
y' y2 U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

y' L2 D2 B' D2 L2 B' L2 R2 B F2 R2 D' R B' R2 D' L2 D' U B F'

y' x // inspection
L2' U2 F' L R2 U2' // 2x2x2
x y' r U' r' U2' L' U R U' x U R' U' l U2' L R2 // 2x2x3
R U' R' y L' U2 L // 2x1x1
y2' R' F R F' y L' U2 L y' // EO
U' R U2 R' U R U R' // 2x1x1
U R U R' U' // leave 3 corners
z y2 U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R' U' R U r // leave 2 corners
x2 U r' D2 r U' B2 U r' D2 r U' B2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 22.46 75 3.34 96 4.27

y' L2 D2 B' D2 L2 B' L2 R2 B F2 R2 D' R B' R2 D' L2 D' U B F'

y' x // inspection
L2' U2 F' L R2 U' U' // 2x2x2
y x' z y r U' r' U' U' L' U R U' x U R' U' l U' U' L R2 // 2x2x3
R U' R' y L' U2 L // 2x1x1
y2' R' F R F' y L' U2 L y' // EO
U' R U2 R' U R U R' // 2x1x1
U R U R' U' // leave 3 corners
y x' y U' R' U R U' R' U L' U' R U R' U' R U r // leave 2 corners
x2 U r' D D r U' x' U2 x U r' D D r U' x' U2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

y' B2 R2 U2 B2 L2 U' B2 L2 B2 L2 D' B F2 R' D' U2 F R' D' R2 D'

z' // inspection
l' U' l U' (x z') R' L' D' R U2 R' // 2x2x2
y L U2 L' U y' L' U2' L' U L // 2x2x3
y2' L' U' L y' U2' R U' R U2 R U R U2' R // 2x1x1
R' F R F' y // EO
U' L' U L U2 L' U2 L U // 2x1x1
z2 R2 U F2 U' b2' U F2 U' b2' R2 // 3 pair cycle
y' x U L U' R2 U L' U' R2 // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 30.47 85 2.79 110 3.61

y' B2 R2 U2 B2 L2 U' B2 L2 B2 L2 D' B F2 R' D' U2 F R' D' R2 D'

z' // inspection
l' U' l U' (x z') R' L' D' R U2 R' // 2x2x2
y L U2 L' U y' L' U' U' L' U L // 2x2x3
U2 y' L' U L L' U' L y' U2 L' U' L y' U' U' R U' R2' U' U R' U2 R U R U' U' R // 2x1x1
y y' R' F R y L' // 3O
U' L' U L U2 L' U L L' U L // 2x1x1
U L' U' L U2' y' y U2 L' U L // place last midge
y' (y' x') x' R2 U F F U' b' b' U F F U' b' b' R2 // 3 pair cycle
x2 y x' U L U' R2 U L' U' R2 // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

y' D2 R' L' F' B' D B' R B2 D L B2 U B2 D2 L2 D R2 F2 U' F2

x y' // inspection
R' U' D' z F' R U L2' L' U L // 2x2x2
U R U' R' U R' y R U2' R // 2x2x3
y' R U' R y l' U2 R U2' R' U2 R U x' // 2x1x1
F R U R' U' F' // EO
U R U' R' U2 R // 2x1x1
U R' U R U' R' U2 // finish
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 16.20 51 3.15 64 3.95

y' D2 R' L' F' B' D B' R B2 D L B2 U B2 D2 L2 D R2 F2 U' F2

x y' // inspection
R' U' D' (x y) U' x' R x x' U L2' L' U L // 2x2x2
U R U' R' U R' y R' R2 U' U' R // 2x2x3
y' R U' R' R2 y l' U2 R U' U' R' U2 R x' F // 2x1x1
F R U R' U' y L' y' // EO
U R U' R' U2 R // 2x1x1
U R' U R U' R' U (U) // finish
View at alg.garron.us

y' U2 L2 B' U2 F2 L2 R2 F L2 F2 D L2 U R B2 R' F L B2 L2

y // inspection
L D l' U R U' // 2x2x2
x' U2 L2' (y x) U R' U' l // 2x2x3
y R U' R U R' U' R U R2 U' R' // 2x1x1
y U2' R' F R F' y // EO
U' L' U' L U2 // L4C
y' L D' L' U' L D L' U y U R' D R U R' D' R U2' // 2 twist
x U r' D2' r U' B2 U r' D2' r U' B2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 17.90 63 3.52 78 4.36

y' U2 L2 B' U2 F2 L2 R2 F L2 F2 D L2 U R B2 R' F L B2 L2

y // inspection
L D l' U R U' // 2x2x2
x' U2 L2' (y x) U R' U' l // 2x2x3
y R U' R' R2 U R' U' R U R2 U' R' // 2x1x1
y U' U' R' F R y L' // EO
U' L' U' L U2 // L4C
y' L D' L' U' L D L' U y U R' D R U R' D' R U' U' // 2 twist
x U r' D' D' r U' x' U2 x U r' D' D' r U' x' U2 // 2 twist
View at alg.garron.us

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Average (removing fastest and slowest solve) [B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 19.25 62.67 3.25 76.67 3.98 Mean (5/5) [B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 20.89 64.80 3.10 80.80 3.87 Best from each field [B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 16.20 50 3.52 56 4.36

[youtubehd]OFiFkMrYsE8[/youtubehd]

y' U' R B2 D' L' F' B' U' L B R2 D2 B' R2 U2 B' R2 D2 B' D2

x' y // inspection
R2 U R2 // 2x2x1
(x' y) r U r' U' r' // 2x2x2
y d' x L' U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') R U R' F2 R // XXcross
d' R U R' U R U R' // 3rd pair
y' L' U L U' L' U2 L // 2x1x1
U2 L' U' L U // leave 3 corners
(y' z') L2' U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L' // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 14.75 45 3.05 54 3.66

y' U' R B2 D' L' F' B' U' L B R2 D2 B' R2 U2 B' R2 D2 B' D2

x' y // inspection
R2 U R2 // 2x2x1
(x' y) r U r' U' r' // 2x2x2
y d' x L' U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') R U R' F2 R // XXcross
d' R U R' U R U R' // 3rd pair
y' L' U L U' L' U U L // 2x1x1
U2 L' U' L U' U' U' // leave 3 corners
(y' z') L2' U2 L' D' L U2 L' D L' // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

y' B' U' F' B2 R2 U' R' L B' R' D2 R2 B D2 R2 B D2 R2 F2 B' D2

x2 // inspection
R' U x U2 L' // 2x1x1
U (x' y') D R2 // 2x2x2
U L' U L U' L U2 r U2 B' U' L U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') U' R U R' F U F2R
y R U' R' y // EO
U L' U L // 2x1x1
y' U' L d' L' U' L d L' // 3 pair cycle
(x y2) L D' L' U' L D L' U // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

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[B]Step Time STM stps ETM etps[/B] Total 17.92 50 2.79 60 3.35

y' B' U' F' B2 R2 U' R' L B' R' D2 R2 B D2 R2 B D2 R2 F2 B' D2

x2 // inspection
R' U x U2 L' // 2x1x1
U (x' y') D R2 // 2x2x2
U L' U L U' L U2 r U U x' U' x U' L U2 // pseudo 2x2x3
(z x') U' R U R' F U F2R// F2L-1
y R U' R' y // EO
U L' U L // 2x1x1
y' U2 U L d' L' U' L d L' // 3 pair cycle
(x y2) L D' L' U' L D L' U // 3 corner cycle
View at alg.garron.us

Brest you are awesome! Thanks, very much!
I thought you gave up after watching the video.

Also, over 60 moves on average? Oh... so many... I thought I was around 55.

[Unofficial] Heise Method: 19.52 avg5 and 14.75 single

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