Good Diagonal PLL Algs?

[Coolster01]

I am really getting slowed down by plls. It is mostly the diagnal swaps. (E, N, Y,). I use 1 look pll (and oll). My problem is execution. Any tips? Any good algs for the diagnals (and some others).

 

[asportking]

What algs do you use for them? Also, it helps to go to youtube and look up videos of fast cubers showing what PLLs they use (such as this one), since they usually show how they execute them as well.

 

[Muesli]

Y is pretty easy.

F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R' F'

For execution, try and do the F' moves with your forefinger. Push on the upper part of the FR edge with the tip of that finger to do the F'. This means you don't have to regrip the cube after F'-ing with your thumb.

 

[gbcuber]

Y is pretty easy.

F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F'

For execution, try and do the F' moves with your forefinger. Push on the upper part of the FR edge with the tip of that finger to do the F'. This means you don't have to regrip the cube after F'-ing with your thumb.

Fixed

 

[NecroNaster]

The last part of Y is a T Oll. Easy

 

[AustinReed]

Y is:

+

 

[Brest]

I recently switched to this (sexy) Yperm
F (R' F R2 U') (R' U' R U) R' F' (R U R' U') F'
alg.garron

For a while I used this short one
F R U' R' U' R d R U R' B' R U' R2
alg.garron

A popular Eperm (Rowe's)
(x') R U' R' D R U R' D' R U R' D R U' R' D' (x)
alg.garron

N(a)
(R U R' U) (R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R') (U2 R U' R')
alg.garron
Basically (R U R' U) Jperm (U2 R U' R')
or
(z) U R' D R2 U' R (D' U) R' D R2 U' R D' R' (z')
alg.garron

N(b)
R' U R U' R' F' U' F R U R' F R' F' R U' R
alg.garron
or
(z) U' R D' R2' U R' (U' D) R D' R2 U R' D R (z')
alg.garron

 

[sa11297]

weird y perms brest but the others i like (and use).
What do you guys use for OH perms?

Edit: it seems like weird is a good thing. I am already getting better times with your new y perm.

 

[APdRF]

I recently switched to this (sexy) Yperm
F (R' F R2 U') (R' U' R U) R' F' (R U R' U') F'
alg.garron

I've been using this Y perm for a week now and it's awesome!

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

I've been using that first Y perm Brest posted for quite a while now, and it's awesome. Also, I think the R/L mirror of it is decent, I might start using that in solves too.

 

[Sa967St]

I recently switched to this (sexy) Yperm
F (R' F R2 U') (R' U' R U) R' F' (R U R' U') F'
alg.garron

Oh that's the beast awkward OLL + FRUR'U'F' with a cancellation, I used to use it.
F R' F R2 U' R' U' R' U' R' F2 + F R U R' U' F'

 

[Ranzha]

For OH, there's the optimal: R2 U' R2 U' R2 U y' R U R' B2 R U' R'

 

[sa11297]

For OH, there's the optimal: R2 U' R2 U' R2 U y' R U R' B2 R U' R'

thanks, the only thing that I dont like it the B2. How do you execute that?

 

[JianhanC]

A popular Eperm (Rowe's)
(x') R U' R' D R U R' D' R U R' D R U' R' D' (x)
alg.garron

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Tomasz Żołnowski invented that E-perm? :/

 

[Brest]

I forget the 'sexy' Eperm:
(z) U2 R2 F (R U R' U')3 F' R2 U2 (z')
alg.garron
or
R2 U R' U' (y) (R U R' U')2 R U R' (y') R U' R2'
alg.garron

I recently switched to this (sexy) Yperm
F (R' F R2 U') (R' U' R U) R' F' (R U R' U') F'

Oh that's the beast awkward OLL + FRUR'U'F' with a cancellation, I used to use it.
F R' F R2 U' R' U' R' U' R' F2 + F R U R' U' F'

Yes indeed! When I first found it* I was like, hey another Yperm, cool! But after I practiced it for a while I liked it more and more. I'm not actually fast enough to know how good it is, but I think it could be better than the standard 17move double OLL Yperm.

*When I say I found it, I don't mean I was the 1st to find it (as it is pretty obvious due to the OLL and it was already in the Wiki) I just mean that I found it without guidance.

This one I also "found" from an OLL:
F R U' R' U' R d R U R' B' R U' R2

The start is the same as the common Yperm (OLL 37), and the end is from another alg from the same awkward OLL 30, also with cancellations:
R2' U R' B' R U' R2' U R B R'

I found this while playing around with OLLs / pair inserts for FMC.

Cool stuff!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Tomasz Żołnowski invented that E-perm? :/

You could be right, I'm not sure. I have only seen it referred to as "Rowe's Eperm".

 

[Pyjam]

For OH, there's the optimal: R2 U' R2 U' R2 U y' R U R' B2 R U' R'

Why not (R2 U' R2' U' R2 U R' F' R U R2' U') (R' F R) with both hands ?

 

[kpcube]

F (R' F R2 U') (R' U' R U) R' F' (R U R' U') F'
All of it flows so nice cept the first F screws the whole thing for me fingertrick advice on this would be great

 

[Escher]

F (R' F R2 U') (R' U' R U) R' F' (R U R' U') F'
All of it flows so nice cept the first F screws the whole thing for me fingertrick advice on this would be great

For the first F:

Hold your left index finger on the UL edge sticker, and use your thumb to push the bottom corner of the F face up - it helps to support your grip with your pinky on the bottom of the cube too sometimes.

Also using index finger push on RFU for the first F' makes it flow really nicely

 

[Kirjava]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Tomasz Żołnowski invented that E-perm? :/

I doubt he was the first. It's just two comms.

 

[jorgeskm]

Other Y perm:
F R' F' R U R U' R2 U' R U Lw U' R' U
or
x' B L' B' L U L U' L2 U' L U Rw U' L' U