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Flipping algorithms?

SaMn37

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So, I was thinking, is it beneficial to fit algorithms to your own logic so the pieces are facing you in a favored position for the way you've learnt stuff, or am I just doing harm to my learning if I do this?

I'm not really a pro so sorry if this is doesn't make sense or is useless. :D

So here is an example of an algorithm for solving last two edges. In my edit it's first rotated Z X, then the algorithm modified to work in that position. I think my edit makes more sense (maybe because it's alike some of the algorithms I've learnt before.)

If making changes like this makes a difference in speed and ease of rotations, would it be possible to gain speed by modifying the algorithms? Kind of like optimizing the algorithms for ease and speed.
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Sub1Hour

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So, I was thinking, is it beneficial to fit algorithms to your own logic so the pieces are facing you in a favored position for the way you've learnt stuff, or am I just doing harm to my learning if I do this?

I'm not really a pro so sorry if this is doesn't make sense or is useless. :D

So here is an example of an algorithm for solving last two edges. In my edit it's first rotated Z X, then the algorithm modified to work in that position. I think my edit makes more sense (maybe because it's alike some of the algorithms I've learnt before.)

If making changes like this makes a difference in speed and ease of rotations, would it be possible to gain speed by modifying the algorithms? Kind of like optimizing the algorithms for ease and speed.
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If you really don't want to rotate to do an alg then go ahead but a Z takes much less time then doing a moved alg with D moves
 

xyzzy

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It's not a bad idea per se to modify algs like what you did, but this is usually not necessary if you're learning the method and algs from a good tutorial/source to begin with.

When doing edge pairing with the reduction method on big cubes, the two main styles are E-slice edge pairing (primarily use Uw and Dw moves to match edge pieces) and M-slice edge pairing (primarily use Lw and Rw moves). Neither style is clearly better than the other on modern hardware (*), but most people use E-slice and if you want to use M-slice edge pairing, you'll have to adapt the algs meant for E-slice accordingly.

(*) I see in your member intro post that you're using V-Cubes, which are very much not modern hardware. I suspect that on bad cubes, M-slice may be better than E-slice due to lower reliance on fingertricks.
 

SaMn37

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It's not a bad idea per se to modify algs like what you did, but this is usually not necessary if you're learning the method and algs from a good tutorial/source to begin with.

When doing edge pairing with the reduction method on big cubes, the two main styles are E-slice edge pairing (primarily use Uw and Dw moves to match edge pieces) and M-slice edge pairing (primarily use Lw and Rw moves). Neither style is clearly better than the other on modern hardware (*), but most people use E-slice and if you want to use M-slice edge pairing, you'll have to adapt the algs meant for E-slice accordingly.

(*) I see in your member intro post that you're using V-Cubes, which are very much not modern hardware. I suspect that on bad cubes, M-slice may be better than E-slice due to lower reliance on fingertricks.
Yeah, slices are near impossible with the V-cubes, I really should get a better 5x5 at the very least. I'm sure I'm missing out a lot. At least I'm going to get some wrist workout now that I'm about to do the V-cube 7 a bit now :D

I just tried out mirroring the Ri Di R D alg to L D Li Di and using that to solve the last corners, it's fun experimenting this way, but is there any benefit? :thinking:
 
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