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Feet is officially unofficial

Loser

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Then why not just remove feet altogether? The argument you're making here only proves my point. Feet is by far the most unpopular event in the WCA, which is why it was removed in the first place. The organizers did have scramblers on hand prior to the competition, but it says a lot about the event with the reluctance for people to scramble/judge the event.
Feet isnt the least popular event in the WCA though.....
Lucas Garron said "speed solving event" to hide the fact that there are less popular events. ********.

I recently competed and helped judge at the Malaysia Cube Championship, and not a single scrambler was willing to do the feet scrambles. As this was my first comp, I hesitantly agreed to do the scrambling to see what it was like to be behind the stage. I believe it is a completely valid argument, alongside hygiene issues. Maybe you would be alright with all the downsides of feet, but the majority of other organizers disagree.
Did the competition not have any staff at all? Staff who are provided with benefits such as a waived registration fee and free lunch should be willing to do any task to help the competition.

#addfeet for 2021
 
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Feet isnt the least popular event in the WCA though.....
Lucas Garron said "speed solving event" to hide the fact that there are less popular events. ********.
If your argument is that it's only the least popular "speed solving event," then you yourself acknowledge that there is a problem with the event. My reply that I sent about 2-3 hours ago is still processing for some reason, so I strongly suggest that you read that once it sends through rather than continuing to ramble about things that I have already answered.
 
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Feet is not disgusting.
The vast majority of cubers disagree. Again, wait for my reply to process. I have all the points listed out in there. I don't mean disgusting as in "gross to watch" (although there is that too), but more as in hygienic issues. The latter is undeniable and is not an opinion. It's simply a fact. I'm honestly glad that the event will finally be removed, but that's just an opinion :)
 

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The vast majority of cubers disagree. Again, wait for my reply to process. I have all the points listed out in there. I don't mean disgusting as in "gross to watch" (although there is that too), but more as in hygienic issues. The latter is undeniable and is not an opinion. It's simply a fact. I'm honestly glad that the event will finally be removed, but that's just an opinion :)
There are more bacteria and in greater quantities on hands than on feet. The fact that Feet is not less hygienic than hands is not an opinion, it’s a fact. People can disagree on subjective grossness, but not objective hygiene. And I don’t believe that the vast majority of cubers disagree with that, I have not seen the results of the community-wide survey that the WRC teased but never actually did.
 

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The truth is, removing feet discourages those people from competing since the only event they could compete in is feet since they can’t use their hands.
From the WCA post: "However, any competition is still welcome to hold it as an unofficial event, and organizers may allow competitors with medical considerations to compete using feet during 3x3x3 Speed Solving."
 

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I welcome the removal of feet. I think feet as an official event was decreasing prestige of WCA.
Even if you're personally a feet fanboy then you have to realize that it simply is disgusting for many people.
Even if this perception would be subjective, unfair and without actual biological/medical support - it's there and it's shared by a lot of people.
I think it's a right decision to market speedsolving as a sport that combines physical and mental abilities instead of being some gruesome weirdness.
 
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I welcome the removal of feet. I think feet as an official event was decreasing prestige of WCA.
Even if you're personally a feet fanboy then you have to realize that it simply is disgusting for many people.
Even if this perception would be subjective, unfair and without actual biological/medical support - it's there and it's shared by a lot of people.
I think it's a right decision to market speedsolving as a sport that combines physical and mental abilities instead of being some gruesome weirdness.
No. I don’t have to realize that. I just feel like some people are overreacting and it’s not okay to remove a whole event.

#electanewwcaboard
agree maybe
 

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agree maybe
Here’s the problem I just found out about with that:

the current election procedures are sufficient. They use a similar system to what you have described.
0 votes for competitors and organisers
1 vote for delegates if they have been promoted to full delegate
1 vote for WCA team/committee members if they have been promoted to senior member

The WCA is not a democracy, and it is not a democracy for a reason.
That is a response to my proposal: https://github.com/thewca/wca-documents/issues/130

@Kit Clement if that’s the case then surely it wouldn’t hurt to open it up to nominations and broader participation in voting, and perhaps relieve some of the workload on current board members?
 

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@Kit Clement if that’s the case then surely it wouldn’t hurt to open it up to nominations and broader participation in voting, and perhaps relieve some of the workload on current board members?
Voting is not the issue. The issue is that there is a lack of willing, qualified individuals to run the position. I think you are implying we should open up the board to more than committee members or full delegates, but I strongly disagree with allowing anyone to run the WCA without being a part of it in some official capacity first.
 

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Voting is not the issue. The issue is that there is a lack of willing, qualified individuals to run the position. I think you are implying we should open up the board to more than committee members or full delegates, but I strongly disagree with allowing anyone to run the WCA without being a part of it in some official capacity first.
Have you read my proposal on Github?
 
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My main issue with it is that organizing competitions and attending competitions does not give you any informed opinion on who should be on the WCA board. Most of the job is being able to work with other WCA committees, teams, leaders, and other staff and manage their responsibilities, as well as manage the legal/non-profit activities of the WCA. Many of these internal activities are of no concern to the general public, but my ability to work with the board as a senior delegate is important in many capacities. I fear that a system like this will put people into power that have no experience or skills in being able to run an organization in which they did no previous administrative work, which is highly important in running an organization that is a legal US non-profit.

It's clear to me that for someone who is just organizing and attending competitions, you have a clear interest in inner WCA workings. Committee/team positions are constantly opening, and if you have the time, I'd highly recommend becoming part of one to become more familiar with what happens.

Please tell me your proposal was a joke of some sort, you can’t be serious
I believe that about most of the things you put on GitHub, but it's pretty clear that his proposal was well-intentioned.
 
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