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At UK Championships there were some discussions about 5x5 edges methods, and we agreed it would be interesting to study the relative move efficiency of different approaches. So, that’s the purpose of this thread. I’d like to see how you solve 5x5 edges and in particular, how efficient your method is. I’m also looking forward to learning a few things .

Scrambles are from qqtimer.net (5x5x5 edges under bigcube subsets, but with lower-case replaced with 'w' format to avoid any ambiguity about whether qqtimer.net intends these to be wide or slice moves).

1. Rw R Bw B Uw Dw2 R D2 R' Uw' L D L' Dw' F U F' Dw2 L D L' Uw L D L' Dw2 L' U' L Uw2 Dw2 F D F' Uw2 R U' R' Uw' Dw U D2 B' Bw' R' U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw

2. Rw R Bw B Uw Dw F' U' F Uw' B D' B' Uw' Dw2 F' U F Uw R D2 R' Uw F' U2 F Dw' R D2 R' Uw2 Dw B' U2 B Dw F U2 F' Uw U2 D B' Bw' R' Rw'

3. Rw R Bw B Uw2 Dw2 L' D2 L Dw L D L' Dw' L U' L' Uw Dw2 F' D2 F Dw2 B U' B' Uw2 Dw B U2 B' Uw2 Dw' R U' R' Uw Dw B D B' Dw U D2 B' Bw' R' U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw

4. Rw R Bw B Uw' Dw2 B' U2 B Uw' L' U L Uw2 Dw' F U F' Uw2 Dw' R' D R Uw Dw2 B U' B' Uw Dw F D F' Dw2 L' U' L Dw2 L D2 L' Dw U2 B' Bw' R' Rw'

5. Rw R Bw B Uw Dw2 B D B' Dw' B' D B Dw' L U' L' Dw B U B' Uw' Dw' F U F' Uw' B' U2 B Uw2 Dw2 F' D F Uw2 Dw' B D2 B' Uw Dw' U D' B' Bw' R' Rw'

**Instructions:**Please use the scrambles in this post so that we can compare solutions. Scramble with your cross colour facing down. Then solve edges, and post your solution and your move count.**Finished state is defined as follows:-**- All tredges formed, except you may leave 1-2 ready to be fixed by a parity or L2E alg (I’m not interested in counting moves in parity algs).
- Cross must be formed on bottom ready for F2L; other tredges can be in any permutation.
- Any centers that you usually fix mid-way through edges can be left broken (I’m not interested in counting moves to fix centers).

Scrambles are from qqtimer.net (5x5x5 edges under bigcube subsets, but with lower-case replaced with 'w' format to avoid any ambiguity about whether qqtimer.net intends these to be wide or slice moves).

1. Rw R Bw B Uw Dw2 R D2 R' Uw' L D L' Dw' F U F' Dw2 L D L' Uw L D L' Dw2 L' U' L Uw2 Dw2 F D F' Uw2 R U' R' Uw' Dw U D2 B' Bw' R' U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw

2. Rw R Bw B Uw Dw F' U' F Uw' B D' B' Uw' Dw2 F' U F Uw R D2 R' Uw F' U2 F Dw' R D2 R' Uw2 Dw B' U2 B Dw F U2 F' Uw U2 D B' Bw' R' Rw'

3. Rw R Bw B Uw2 Dw2 L' D2 L Dw L D L' Dw' L U' L' Uw Dw2 F' D2 F Dw2 B U' B' Uw2 Dw B U2 B' Uw2 Dw' R U' R' Uw Dw B D B' Dw U D2 B' Bw' R' U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw

4. Rw R Bw B Uw' Dw2 B' U2 B Uw' L' U L Uw2 Dw' F U F' Uw2 Dw' R' D R Uw Dw2 B U' B' Uw Dw F D F' Dw2 L' U' L Dw2 L D2 L' Dw U2 B' Bw' R' Rw'

5. Rw R Bw B Uw Dw2 B D B' Dw' B' D B Dw' L U' L' Dw B U B' Uw' Dw' F U F' Uw' B' U2 B Uw2 Dw2 F' D F Uw2 Dw' B D2 B' Uw Dw' U D' B' Bw' R' Rw'

Last edited: Nov 23, 2015