# DeRuyter Open 2012 (Unofficial)

#### cubernya

http://deruyteropen.tk/
If that doesn't work: http://sites.google.com/site/deruyteropen2012

Date: August 25

Registration:
Before August 11: $10 Before August 18:$10 for 2 events, $1 per event thereafter At the door:$13 for 2 events, $2 per event thereafter Address: 711 Railroad Street Deruyter, NY 13052 (United States) Live Results: http://test.cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=40 (Yes, we're using CubeComps!) Events: 2x2 - 2 rounds 3x3 - 3 rounds 4x4 - 1 round 5x5 - 1 round OH - 2 rounds BLD - 1 round Magic - 1 round MMagic - 1 round Schedule: On website ------------------------------- I am currently working on getting a$1500 grant from Walmart, which would allow me to purchase 8 timers and displays. If I get the \$1500, registration will be free.

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Why unofficial?

#### cubernya

Why unofficial?
Bob said that him, Kian, and Tim have all of their competitions planned for the rest of the year. Dave hasn't responded definitely one way or the other, so I can assume that it's a no. If Dave responds yes, then obviously it will be official.

#### antoineccantin

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If possible, I suggest not using Pro timers.

#### HelpCube

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SWEEEETTT. Definitely have 2 rounds of OH if possible. I think I live less than an hour from there, no way I'm missing it, official or not.

And if it is unofficial, I wouldn't see a reason to actually buy pro timers. Maybe competitors can let you use their stackmat timer + mat for the comp? I'd be willing to do that, I have both a 2nd and 3rd generation too.

#### Noahaha

##### blindmod
Bob said that him, Kian, and Tim have all of their competitions planned for the rest of the year. Dave hasn't responded definitely one way or the other, so I can assume that it's a no. If Dave responds yes, then obviously it will be official.
Ok. I think I'll be there either way.

#### Tim Reynolds

We're limiting the number of official competitions in the northeast to roughly 2 per month, and fewer in the summer. Otherwise people stop going to them.

We haven't worked with theZcuber before, so we would rather that he run an unofficial competition first as a test run. Since no delegates will be there, he can't rely on us to run the competition for him, as some first-time organizers have done. If it goes well, we can talk about having an official competition; if not, then we won't. That's what happened with Ishmam and Chesapeake Science Point, and he will probably be holding an official competition in the fall. We've seen enough poorly-run competitions that we want to make sure organizers know what they're doing before we travel 4 hours to get to his competition.

#### cubernya

SWEEEETTT. Definitely have 2 rounds of OH if possible. I think I live less than an hour from there, no way I'm missing it, official or not.

And if it is unofficial, I wouldn't see a reason to actually buy pro timers. Maybe competitors can let you use their stackmat timer + mat for the comp? I'd be willing to do that, I have both a 2nd and 3rd generation too.
Fayetteville IIRC?

I was just thinking that pro timers are more up to date, record to a greater accuracy, and could be the only timer accepted by the WCA (in a few years obviously).

I was thinking about having competitors bringing their own timers, and then we could just have up to 10 set up for the entire day. Of course we'd have them labelled so we know whose is whose. Although with this option, I wouldn't have any timers to hold later official competitions.

#### Tim Reynolds

Fayetteville IIRC?

I was just thinking that pro timers are more up to date, record to a greater accuracy, and could be the only timer accepted by the WCA (in a few years obviously).

I was thinking about having competitors bringing their own timers, and then we could just have up to 10 set up for the entire day. Of course we'd have them labelled so we know whose is whose. Although with this option, I wouldn't have any timers to hold later official competitions.
Right now we're not thrilled with the pro timers, at least not the version we've been testing. If we delegate an official competition, we'll bring timers.

#### HelpCube

##### Member
Fayetteville IIRC?

I was just thinking that pro timers are more up to date, record to a greater accuracy, and could be the only timer accepted by the WCA (in a few years obviously).

I was thinking about having competitors bringing their own timers, and then we could just have up to 10 set up for the entire day. Of course we'd have them labelled so we know whose is whose. Although with this option, I wouldn't have any timers to hold later official competitions.
It's obviously up to you, but unless you plan on becoming a WCA delegate I don't think it's worth the money.

Oh, and I live in Dewitt, which is like 10 mins from Fayetteville, but Andrew lives in Fayetteville.

#### antoineccantin

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I was just thinking that pro timers are more up to date, record to a greater accuracy, and could be the only timer accepted by the WCA (in a few years obviously).
Not only could it cause some confusion (the displays only have 2 digits), but (at least in my experience) the pro timers tend to have weird bugs, are much less reliable and seem to have a shorter battery life (not 100% sure about this one though, compared to the Gen 2 timers.

#### cityzach

##### Member
I got excited since i saw that this was in NY, but google maps says 4 hours so i most likely won't be there. however it is over summer so who knows?

#### Noahaha

##### blindmod
I got excited since i saw that this was in NY, but google maps says 4 hours so i most likely won't be there. however it is over summer so who knows?
Same thing happened to me.

#### danthecuber

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I got excited since i saw that this was in NY, but google maps says 4 hours so i most likely won't be there. however it is over summer so who knows?
Don't worry, there's an SJC competition planned for August 18th.

#### BlueDevil

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Don't worry, there's an SJC competition planned for August 18th.
Why are all of the summer competitions at least 4 hours south of me?!?! Guess I'll just have to wait until Fall.

#### Noahaha

##### blindmod
Don't worry, there's an SJC competition planned for August 18th.
Huzzah! There better be BLD. I'm practicing all summer.

#### MirzaCubing

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A few things:
>If you really want this now, then go ahead and do it unofficially. Or you could talk with Bob and Tim and have an official one next year.
>I thought Gen 3 Timers don't hook up to displays, don't count on my word, I'm probably wrong but it's good to double check on speedstacks.com
>If you want sponsors, go to local retailers, or bigger franchises (Walmart, McDonalds, etc., They give a lot of money towards educational purposes