It does seem to relate to the cubing community as a whole, considering how frequently information is disseminated via video. Well, it's up to the mods to decide if this should stay in General Speedcubing Discussion or be moved to Off-topic Discussion.Quick thing, this should actually be in the Off-Topic Discussion area.
It's not just bullying that they're worried about, I can assure you.I understand this is to prevent bullying, but in reality, this does everything but that.
Please don't talk over a video that also has someone talking in it; I can't make out what you or the guy in the video is trying to say. (And you don't have closed captions either!)video
The thing is, if we say it’s not for kids, the unfair thing is that there is a chance we could be fined $40k, which most of us don’t have.Guys cubing content is not for kids, yes kids watch it but when we make videos we don’t think ‘hey I hope the kids enjoy this’ we think ‘hey look at this new cube/alg/solve I hope this interests someone’ I’d say the average age for cubers is around 13 and this is targeting people under 13. Also most cubing channels are too small to get attention no one at YouTube or COPPA is thinking ‘hey that XYZcuber is taking advantage of his 200 subscribers who may be younger than 13’ they are trying to stop big corporate channels that manipulate their younger audience like the toy channels where children ‘review’ toys but really the parents have just found a way of getting easy money and if worst comes to worst just start your video saying crap or something then it can’t be for kids can it.
But to actually do that would take ages and new cubers would be unlikely to find it which would mean the Cubers on YouTube don't really know what they are talking about but they get views so bad information is more likely to spread through the community.This is a reason to make a platform specifically for cubing vids
I'm not sure a Google form is going to get many signatures, I assume someone has already made a change.org petition for this that would be more likely to change things.
like I said they have better things to be doing then going after cubing channels with like 200 subs even "big" cubing channels aren't actually that large compared to a lot of people on youtube also look at how complicated cubing looks to non-cubers I think you couldmake the case that it is not for kids quite easilyThe thing is, if we say it’s not for kids, the unfair thing is that there is a chance we could be fined $40k, which most of us don’t have.
That is true...like I said they have better things to be doing then going after cubing channels with like 200 subs even "big" cubing channels aren't actually that large compared to a lot of people on youtube also look at how complicated cubing looks to non-cubers I think you couldmake the case that it is not for kids quite easily
That’s what I’m saying. The fine is what’s unfair here. The chances of a minor having $40k to spend is almost zero, or maybe it IS zero.What I don't get is why you can be fined 40k for labeling something kids might like "not for kids" that doesn't harm anyone, its just like, in a terrible analogy of mine, if a apple seller got sued for not putting "dairy free" on his apples.
Thanks for providing more context. I think the entire cubing community appreciates it.Soooooo much misunderstanding up above, so let me see if I can clear some stuff up:
1) COPPA is not a group or person. "COPPA" isn't doing anything to anyone. COPPA is the name of an American law aimed at protecting the privacy of children under 13. It has been in effect for nearly 20 years. Google and Youtube have been violating the law for a long, long time and are finally falling into line. It is a law with a valid, important purpose and not at all "stupid".
2) You will not get fined if you mark your content as "not for kids" and it ends up being for kids. If you have a cubing channel and mark it as "not for kids", you're good to go. The problem arises if you mark it "ok for kids" and then publish content that isn't OK for kids. That's where the $42,500 fines come from. Even then, the likelihood of actually getting hit with the fine is really, really small. Mostly what will happen is that Youtube, through their AI, will automatically flag you video as not for kids and that will be that.
3) The disabling of comments on videos for kids is not to protect from bullying. Well, that's maybe 1% of it. The main purpose is to stop the comment sections of videos from being used by predators seeking victims. Currently, the comment sections at Youtube are a haven for gross behavior of that nature.
4) The main effect of this law will be a reduction in ad revenue for a lot of channels. A major effect of COPPA is to make targeted advertising impossible for many demographics. This is because, before the enforcement of the COPPA law, advertisers were (illegally) using the private information of children under 13 (like browsing history, internet searches, etc) to deliver personalized ads. That won't happen anymore. So the ads displayed will be much more generic and, therefore, far less valuable. So, less ad money for channels that are monetized.
For the most part, this is going to be much ado about nothing. There will still be tons of cubing channels putting out content.
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