# Cubing fun facts!

#### brododragon

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Hi, this thread is for all those fun facts that you can't tell anyone because nobody understands cubing. It just has to be in some, way, shape, or form related to cubing (so not like the thread created by @Aerma).

I'll start. In the WCA rulebook, there's a set of rules for how many moves the optimal solution must be to be considered a useable scramble. For pyraminx, it's 6. Guess how many moves the WR is. It's 6.

Note: man I need to get to bed it's 2:00 AM.

#### ProStar

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5-7 and megaminx scrambles can be 2 moves from solved, according to the subregulations following the one brodo mentioned.

• 4b3e) 5x5x5 Cube, 6x6x6 Cube, 7x7x7 Cube, and Megaminx: sufficiently many random moves (instead of random state), at least 2 moves to solve.

#### brododragon

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5-7 and megaminx scrambles can be 2 moves from solved, according to the subregulations following the one brodo mentioned.

• 4b3e) 5x5x5 Cube, 6x6x6 Cube, 7x7x7 Cube, and Megaminx: sufficiently many random moves (instead of random state), at least 2 moves to solve.
Same with 3x3

#### Hazel

5-7 and megaminx scrambles can be 2 moves from solved, according to the subregulations following the one brodo mentioned.

• 4b3e) 5x5x5 Cube, 6x6x6 Cube, 7x7x7 Cube, and Megaminx: sufficiently many random moves (instead of random state), at least 2 moves to solve.
Same with 3x3
Why do they even bother with this rule if realistically it will never, ever need to be considered? Even if it's just for formality's sake - why only 2 moves?

#### The Cubing Fanatic

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Mats Valk no longer endorses VLS.

#### Hazel

Mats Valk no longer endorses VLS.
I can't find a source on this. Do you have one?

#### brododragon

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Why do they even bother with this rule if realistically it will never, ever need to be considered? Even if it's just for formality's sake - why only 2 moves?
I agree that it would be more moves. But it's there so that in the extremely unlikely case you get a 1 move scramble, you can't just lift your hands off the stackmat and put them right back in for a +2, giving you a no-skill WR. You might say it's faster to just do the turn (and it is), but I would for the +2 option because of nerves.

#### The Cubing Fanatic

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Yes, The Corner Cutter Podcast Ep #84.
Shawn from the Speed Cube Review mentions that while at lunch Valk told him not to bother with VLS but to learn something like ZBLL instead.

#### ProStar

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Why do they even bother with this rule if realistically it will never, ever need to be considered? Even if it's just for formality's sake - why only 2 moves?
I mean, realistically, no one will ever get the scramble that Yusheng Du got, but he still got it.

#### brododragon

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I mean, realistically, no one will ever get the scramble that Yusheng Du got, but he still got it.
It's not only the scramble. There's also the cross/block you start on, the method, the skill of utilizing luck, and much more.

#### xcross

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Fun Fact:
If you were to dedicate enough computing power to it, a computer could create all new kinds of 1LLL variatons, with some that are easy to recognize!