# [Unofficial]Cuber does F2L LBL in 9 seconds

#### pcwiz

##### Member
Hi Everybody!

I saw an AWESOME video having this guy get an average of 15.25 seconds getting the First Two Layers, using the Layer by Layer method! He even got a lucky 9 SECONDS!!!!!!! When I saw the video, all I could do was Seriously, look at how fast his fingers move...

In this this video (same person), he solved the whole cube using the Layer by Layer method in an average of 28.21!!!! Seriously, that's really fast for LBL method.

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#### masterofthebass

Using LBL first layer and 4LLL, I can get a mid 25 average. LBL isn't that slow, but F2L is definitely faster.

#### shelley

##### chang
Wow. I don't know if it's just the frame rate or anything, but that doesn't look like a very smooth cube either.

#### Lt-UnReaL

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Faster ones:
14.60 average for First 2 Layers using LBL

21.20 average of 13

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#### pcwiz

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Thanks for the videos

#### Leo

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Didn't Erik post a video on YouTube yesterday of him averaging sub-20 with LBL 4LLL?

#### Lotsofsloths

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Didn't Erik post a video on YouTube yesterday of him averaging sub-20 with LBL 4LLL?

Yea here it is:

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#### Dene

Lol, if I were to race with normal Fridrich I might beat that

#### Arget

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Yea i saw this guy a while ago, he is sick!

#### pcwiz

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Wow those are the fastest solves I've ever seen with LBL 4LLL....

It's hard to tell how fast he is really going because of the video camera's frame rate but it's still awesome!!

Well I could probably do my cube faster if I had a DIY

#### joey

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Wow those are the fastest solves I've ever seen with LBL 4LLL....

It's hard to tell how fast he is really going because of the video camera's frame rate but it's still awesome!!

Well I could probably do my cube faster if I had a DIY

A DIY won't magically make you faster, I didn't get a DIY until I was around 20s or so. I now avg around 16s, and can still get 16s on my first cube.

#### pcwiz

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I think a DIY will and here's why:

It cuts corners well
It can be adjusted to be loose

My cube decently cuts corners because I sanded it, but it's not awesome.
I lubricated my cube with silicone but I still get a lot of friction...

I think a DIY cube will solve that problem.

#### 36duong

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That koma guy is just amazing..... Sub 30 with LBL for the First Two layers
Anyway, I'd also go for the DIY having a bad cube is no fun at all. I'm not saying that all store boughts are bad it's just most people don't think of using Silicone and breaking in without the internet or a long time.