• Welcome to the Speedsolving.com, home of the web's largest puzzle community!
    You are currently viewing our forum as a guest which gives you limited access to join discussions and access our other features.

    Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community of 40,000+ people from around the world today!

    If you are already a member, simply login to hide this message and begin participating in the community!

Blindfold Failures Thread

Mike Hughey

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Messages
11,317
Location
Indianapolis
WCA
2007HUGH01
SS Competition Results
YouTube
Visit Channel
corners can be solved with L U2 L' U2, not sure what this means
What it means is that probably the vast majority of the wrong pieces are due to doing U2 L' when you should have done L' U2. If you still had most of the pieces left to go, it might possibly even be the only mistake you made.

I would guess from that that you probably solve centers before wings? Although it's possible that you could have that few centers wrong because a lot of them worked out nicely or were pre-solved, it's probably more likely that you had some centers solved (but no wings) before making the mistake.
 

Dylan Swarts

Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2018
Messages
330
Location
South Africa
WCA
2017SWAR03
YouTube
Visit Channel
6bld Attempt 4
DNF by again 4lO 4rO then 3oX and 2iX. 4 corners like always, an inner l2 or r2 off but the bars rotated because of my corner algs at the end (OP), many inner wings and 6 oW.. Dunno if my method is faulty or something, since I use beginners for the whole thing.
Corners: OP
Midges: M2
Wings: r2
Centers: U2

Exec order: iX, oX, rO, lO, wings, corners.

for D face targets for obliques, I setup to Df and do (for left obliques): 3Rw' U U r U' (inner)l2 U r' U' (inner)l2 U' 3Rw' U2 which is a comm from Graham's list which I turned into an oblique alg. For right obliques I do that on the left side with the U2 at the start.
I hope that made sense. If this alg is faulty, please let me know. I do believe it is correct tho..
Maybe I am just doing very badly at exec...
Or I should hold off 6bld until I know full 3 style..
 

Jacck

Member
Joined
Jan 26, 2016
Messages
397
Location
South-Germany
WCA
2013HUBH01
The second 3Rw' should be 3Rw, not?
Another idea: if you have a letterpair with a difficult piece in it, you could move that to another place/face, then solve the (changed) letterpair and undo the move afterwards.
Some more moves but sometimes easier to do (and kind of the same as setups in 3 style).
Even if your D-obliques should be the last to solve (and to be followed by an U2) you could move it to the front face, solve it there and an oblique of the right face, then bring the D-oblique back, then solve the oblique of the right face and then end with U2.

And I don't think that you should wait for full 3 style. Your "beginner's"-method takes more moves but should be easier to do without errors.
 

PetrusQuber

Member
Joined
Jun 27, 2019
Messages
3,460
Location
my house, cubing.
YouTube
Visit Channel
I'm a newbie at 3BLD, and I tried to do JUST EDGES, and failed. I don't even know how I did it. My guess is that I made a mistake in undoing setup somewhere, or I misremembered what my letter pair stood for (So i have turban, and I go for TN when it was TB). Oh btw this is my, like, 5th attempt.
 

Mike Hughey

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Messages
11,317
Location
Indianapolis
WCA
2007HUGH01
SS Competition Results
YouTube
Visit Channel
I'm a newbie at 3BLD, and I tried to do JUST EDGES, and failed. I don't even know how I did it. My guess is that I made a mistake in undoing setup somewhere, or I misremembered what my letter pair stood for (So i have turban, and I go for TN when it was TB). Oh btw this is my, like, 5th attempt.
A bit of advice - use a known scramble, and when you finish and it came out wrong, try the same scramble again. You can check your memorization against the scramble to see if you made a mistake, and then try solving two pieces at a time and find your mistake. Or perhaps you'll find you just made some silly mistake when executing, and it works the second time! Either way, it's nice to find out what went wrong if you can, and you gain confidence by realizing it was probably just a small thing that went wrong.
 

PetrusQuber

Member
Joined
Jun 27, 2019
Messages
3,460
Location
my house, cubing.
YouTube
Visit Channel
A bit of advice - use a known scramble, and when you finish and it came out wrong, try the same scramble again. You can check your memorization against the scramble to see if you made a mistake, and then try solving two pieces at a time and find your mistake. Or perhaps you'll find you just made some silly mistake when executing, and it works the second time! Either way, it's nice to find out what went wrong if you can, and you gain confidence by realizing it was probably just a small thing that went wrong.
Oh, thanks a lot. I have never tried this before. I'll post again in a week (if i fail).
 

ProStar

Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2019
Messages
6,331
Location
An uncolonized sector of the planet Mars
WCA
2020MAHO01
SS Competition Results
First BLD attempt since like September, I’m pleased to say my technique hasn’t all been lost (which isn’t saying much), and I did a solve which took around 15 minutes, off by 4 edges and 2 corners.

Try doing sighted solves, then start doing sighted solves except close your eyes to do/undo setup. Then start memorizing just the corners, then just the edges, then finally all of it. That's basically what I did, except I learned 2BLD and then did 2MBLD(2/2) while I was giving up on 3BLD so I was able to skip the memo buildup part and go straight from sighted solves with blind setups to full cube.
 

OreKehStrah

Member
Joined
May 24, 2019
Messages
1,442
YouTube
Visit Channel
I'm a newbie at 3BLD, and I tried to do JUST EDGES, and failed. I don't even know how I did it. My guess is that I made a mistake in undoing setup somewhere, or I misremembered what my letter pair stood for (So i have turban, and I go for TN when it was TB). Oh btw this is my, like, 5th attempt.
Sorry to bump an old comment but weirdly enough, I was able to do a full 3bld solve before I could do an edges only lol
 
L

lucarubik

Guest
1. 32.30 L D2 R D' L2 D F D' B R' D2 F2 L2 B2 U R2 U' L2 D L2 D2 Rw2 Uw'
y
U D', R U' R', D2
R, U2, R D R'
U, R D' R' U2
R' D', R U' R' U R U' R'. D

M U M' U M U M' U
l D l', S'
U' L U, M'
E', L' U L
R U' R' U, M'

all these cases are ridiculously fast, wich in my case means they are ridiculously fast to think of (ohter cases are also fast but i struggle with them)
I was introducing some tweaks on the edges so i was slow solving, making sure i was solving each case as i decided to
the worst part is there is no tweak on any of these cases, shoudlve been an easy sub 25, maybe even PB
good news is im starting to get sub 10 memos, about time
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Joined
Jun 20, 2019
Messages
732
Location
Germany
WCA
2019HENK01
I literally just wanted a decent Ao5 cause my current still isn't sub-2.
I did get some good singles though, the 1:05.63 is PB.

Bildschirmfoto 2020-04-08 um 14.26.21.png

Time List:
1. 1:15.47 F2 D2 U2 F2 L2 R' D2 L' U2 R' D2 F2 U B2 F' L B' F D2 L' R' Fw Uw @2020-04-08 13:10:08
2. DNF(1:49.71)[2E2C - missed a target during corner exec] B D' L2 D F2 R' F D' B' L' U2 R2 F2 U2 B2 R2 D' F2 B2 L2 F2 Fw Uw2 @2020-04-08 13:13:02
3. 1:10.20 U F2 R2 B' D2 B2 L2 R2 B' L2 D2 B' D' R' D2 F' L R2 D2 L' Rw2 @2020-04-08 13:15:59
4. DNF(1:53.17)[3E - 1recall mistake] B2 L D2 B' D2 F' U' L' B U B2 U2 B2 R2 D L2 U2 R2 B2 R2 L2 Fw Uw2 @2020-04-08 13:18:32
5. 1:10.69 R2 B' R2 F2 U' F2 U2 R2 D R2 U' R2 L D R2 F' U R' D2 L Fw Uw @2020-04-08 13:21:43
6. 1:24.38 D2 L2 U L2 R2 F2 L2 U2 R2 D L2 R U F2 L' F R F2 D2 U R Rw' Uw2 @2020-04-08 13:23:46
7. DNF(1:38.19)[2FE - mismemoed last edge target] D R' B F2 R2 U' L2 D U2 F2 L2 B2 L' U R2 B' U B2 U Rw2 Uw @2020-04-08 13:26:35
8. DNF(1:14.67)[4E4C - 1 move during corners] D B2 D2 R2 F2 L2 B2 D' B2 F2 D2 R2 F L B' U2 B' D2 F L' B' Fw Uw' @2020-04-08 13:29:16
9. DNF(2:16.27)[(big corner recall pause) 6E5C - probably 1 move and something else I guess] D' B2 R2 U' F2 D' F2 D2 R2 F2 R U F' R' D' R' U F2 U B' F' Rw2 Uw' @2020-04-08 13:31:44
10. DNF(1:18.10)[8E6C - some stupid exec I guess] R' U F2 D2 B R U F' D' B2 R2 F2 U2 R B2 R2 D2 F2 B2 L Rw @2020-04-08 13:35:10
11. DNF(1:10.85)[gave up during edge memo] F' L D2 U2 R2 D2 B' U2 F' D2 L2 F2 R2 F2 R' D' U' F' L D2 F Uw2 @2020-04-08 13:37:29
12. 1:23.65 B2 R2 B' L2 B' D2 U2 F' R2 B D2 B R' U B D' U' B' L2 B' F2 Rw' Uw @2020-04-08 13:39:26
13. 1:28.19 F2 R' B2 R2 B2 L F2 U2 R' D2 R D2 B U' B' D U2 B F2 R U2 Rw2 Uw2 @2020-04-08 13:41:19
14. DNF(53.98)[forgot some edges] B' L R2 F2 L2 U R2 F2 D U L2 B F' L F' U R F' R' Uw @2020-04-08 13:43:50
15. DNF(1:18.90)[messed up during corner exec] U' R' F2 L D' B' L2 F' U' B U2 D2 B' U2 F' L2 D2 R2 U2 F R2 Rw' Uw2 @2020-04-08 13:45:26
16. DNF(1:29.01)[2FE - miss recalled] D B D2 L U2 R' B' U F2 R2 U2 D B2 U' F2 D' B2 R' U2 Fw @2020-04-08 13:48:00
17. DNF(1:26.21)[2FE - forgot to solve a flipped edge] R B L D' R2 D' R U L2 D F2 R2 B' U2 B2 L2 B D2 F2 Rw2 Uw' @2020-04-08 13:50:16
18. 1:05.63[lol edges] B U2 L F L2 B D' L' B U2 B L2 B' R2 F U2 R2 B2 R2 D Uw @2020-04-08 13:52:22
19. 1:39.62[lol corners] D B F2 D2 B R2 B D2 U2 F D2 F' U2 L U' B2 U2 R' B U2 @2020-04-08 13:54:03
20. DNF(1:31.44)[forgot some edges] B2 L2 F L2 R2 F2 D2 L2 B U2 F L D U2 F2 U B' F2 L2 R U Rw' Uw' @2020-04-08 13:56:29
21. DNF(1:16.95)[messed up corners] B2 U F2 U2 F' U2 D' R' L2 B2 U' F2 D L2 D2 R2 F2 D Rw2 Uw2 @2020-04-08 13:59:35
22. DNF(1:00.64)[forgot some edges] F D2 L2 F' L2 U2 R' F U F R2 U2 F U2 B' U2 D2 R2 U2 F2 Uw' @2020-04-08 14:01:47
23. 1:45.18[bad] L' D B2 R2 U2 F L2 R2 B R2 F L2 U2 B L' F U' B' D F' U2 Rw2 Uw @2020-04-08 14:03:08
24. DNF(1:31.46)[2FE - missed the flip in memo] L' B2 D' F' R' U B' L2 U2 F2 U B2 D2 F2 L2 U F2 U R' U2 Rw' @2020-04-08 14:05:14
25. DNF(1:37.52)[forgot corners and some edges are off too] U' F' L2 D B2 U F2 L2 B2 U' R2 D' L' D B2 U B R U2 F2 Rw Uw2 @2020-04-08 14:07:23
26. DNF(1:25.79)[2FE - memo error] B D U2 B' R2 U2 F D2 F2 R2 F' D2 F2 U' F' U2 F' L' B' L2 Rw' Uw @2020-04-08 14:09:51
27. DNF(1:15.71)[forgot corners and some mistakes in edges] U' B2 U F2 U L2 U L2 U F2 U F' L' B' F D' L B' U2 B' L' Fw @2020-04-08 14:13:20
28. 1:25.27 B2 L2 B2 U2 B2 D' F2 U' F2 U2 L2 U R' F' L' U B F' R' F' R' Rw' Uw @2020-04-08 14:15:09
29. DNF(1:37.30)[3E - recall error] L R2 U' F2 R2 B2 L2 U F2 D B L2 D2 F2 L D' R' F L Uw' @2020-04-08 14:16:53
30. DNF(1:04.54)[nooooooo a move] D' B2 R2 D2 B D2 B F2 D2 R2 B R2 F' R' F2 U' L U2 B' U Fw' Uw @2020-04-08 14:19:08
 
Top