# Big cube BLD progression

## What puzzles have you done blind?

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#### HEART

##### Member
Hiya.

Up on trying to learn 4BLD, I was curious how others have progressed through big cube BLD

What are some things that help learn bigger BLD? How long did it take you to get your first success on 4BLD/5BLD/xBLD

I feel as though there need to be more 4BLD video tutorials. While although Daniel's is very well done, it doesn't always fit everyone.

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What i want to be different with this thread from the other big cube BLD thread, is that I want take poll of how many of you big cube BLD'ers have done more

than 5BLD, whether it be 6 or 7, or even other puzzles. This IS the BLD subforum, no need to be restrained to cubes.

#### Noahaha

##### blindmod
I would say that the difference between bigBLD and 3BLD is that the bigger the cube, the more memorization matters as opposed to execution. For me the most difficult part by far was coming up with a good system for memo, since you can basically apply any 3BLD method to bigger cubes. My next video will be about the memorization aspects of 4 and 5BLD, since I think daniel covered execution very well.

#### Mikel

Other: 3x3 BLD I would say its a good progression to big cubes BLD

Attempt that I completed first success:
2x2 BLD: no idea
3x3 BLD: 4th
4x4 BLD: 1st
5x5 BLD: 3rd

#### HEART

##### Member
the main part that i'm struggling with is centers on 4BLD. Comm set ups tend to be confusing, but M2 seem even more confusing and long.I know how to memo centers and edges fine, but centers are the only thing holding me back.

#### vd

##### Member
For me, the most difficult part in big cubes BLD was accuracy. Especially on 5BLD, it was not that hard to memorize everything, neither it was that hard to solve the cube, but the hardest thing was not to make a single mistake in many hundreds of moves.

#### TMOY

##### Member
Same for me. That's why it took me so long to get a 5BLD official success (and that's also why I'm really inconsistent at multi).

#### CubeRoots

##### Member
333bf not an option :confused:

#### NevinsCPH

##### Member
I did 4BLD and 5BLD, and 5BLD actually is so much harder for me because there are 2 types of centre. So I'll have to memorise them in a different order, I memo x centre then edge wings then + centre to reduce my chances of confusion.

#### DrKorbin

##### Member
What are some things that help learn bigger BLD?
There are no things, you just sit and learn ^_^

How long did it take you to get your first success on 4BLD/5BLD/xBLD
4x4 - 3rd attempt; 5x5 - 1st; 6x6 - 4th; 7x7 - about 15th attempt.

I feel as though there need to be more 4BLD video tutorials. While although Daniel's is very well done, it doesn't always fit everyone.
They are not needed, really. If you don't understand comms for centers, you can start with U2 method. For wings, the r2 method is pretty straightforward.

#### A Leman

##### Member
I have solved multi with my 2 4X4's and some 3x3's, but have not even dared to try 5bld with my rubiks brand. I locks up so badly that I haven't speedsolved it for months. The execution would be too frustrating. Once I get a good cube, I think I will get a 5bld fairly quickly.

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#### drewsopchak

##### Member
2-5. Would do bigger cubes, however I have a v-6 missing one piece, and I'm not gonna do 7 until I get a SS.

#### HEART

##### Member
Why wait for a SS? is your 7 borked or something? or do you just not like the pillow?

As far as big cube BLD progression goes, are there really wany faster methods? I know of r2, U2, comms ( centers ) I'm not counting corners because those don't change for big cubes.

How fast do you think 7BLD can get if someone actually stuck to it and tried to get faster? I remember mike's being around an hour (?)

#### Mikel

Why wait for a SS? is your 7 borked or something? or do you just not like the pillow?

As far as big cube BLD progression goes, are there really wany faster methods? I know of r2, U2, comms ( centers ) I'm not counting corners because those don't change for big cubes.

How fast do you think 7BLD can get if someone actually stuck to it and tried to get faster? I remember mike's being around an hour (?)
I know for a fact Mike has a 37 minute 7x7 BLD. He's the only one I know who does it semi-regularly in the weekly competition.

#### HEART

##### Member
I almost want to see 6bld and 7bld in competitions, but that will never happen. Almost no one does it, but i think it'd be interesting if some competitions hosted it as an unofficial event.

#### emolover

##### Member
@HEART

How are you with memoing 4BLD edges? When I did my first attempt(and official attempt) it took me 25 minutes to memorize edges.

#### HEART

##### Member
I'm fairly decenti suppose. I don't time myself on 4bld, i'm just sitting on my bed for now whenever i try 4BLD. I just use straight up letters, no stories or anything. I use pairs of 4 letters to make a word. MIAV-JPEC-LKTS etc. I'd estimate i'm at about 8 minutes to memo edges

#### Mikel

@HEART

How are you with memoing 4BLD edges? When I did my first attempt(and official attempt) it took me 25 minutes to memorize edges.
25 minutes just for edges? I think when I did my first attempt (success) it took me 23 minutes to memorize the whole cube. I use Roman rooms and use 4 locations for edges with each having 3 letter pairs interacting. I think my 4BLD memo now is about 8 minutes for the whole cube.

#### emolover

##### Member
25 minutes just for edges? I think when I did my first attempt (success) it took me 23 minutes to memorize the whole cube. I use Roman rooms and use 4 locations for edges with each having 3 letter pairs interacting. I think my 4BLD memo now is about 8 minutes for the whole cube.
Yes 25 minutes for edges, but centers and corners only took me 5 minutes. It took me so long to figure out where the piece went. I think I should put a cube in front of me for reference. Can you do that? I saw Mike doing it.

#### Cubenovice

##### Forever Slow
I think I should put a cube in front of me for reference. Can you do that?
Interesting...
Many cubers have an additional cube on the table during official solves (to use in the waiting area) but I never thought about it as a reference item for BLD.
It could* act as such so perhaps a regulation update is in order?

emolover: finding where the edge goes becomes easier with time.
Eventually you will just know where each sticker has to go.

#### DrKorbin

##### Member
Interesting...
Many cubers have an additional cube on the table during official solves (to use in the waiting area) but I never thought about it as a reference item for BLD.
It could* act as such so perhaps a regulation update is in order?
I saw a little discussion about it somewhere, but no actions were taken, and current and "new" regs say nothing about it.
Really, it wont speed up fast blindfolders. In fact, if you have learnt your center positions in your orientation (and you should learn it after some practice in 3x3 bld), then I don't see how another cube will help you.