# [Unofficial]3/3 Multi, 1:26 BLD, 55 4x4.

#### Swordsman Kirby

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Woo!

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#### alexc

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Nice job! What method do you use for blindfolded?

#### masterofthebass

hey, what's with the Purple...

Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.

#### Pedro

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nice job!

good time for the 3 cubes...I hope I can do something like that in july

#### Swordsman Kirby

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Nice job! What method do you use for blindfolded?
What Dan said.
Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.

#### Nghia

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Great work ! Still can't manage a 2/2 yet

#### masterofthebass

Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.
Yes, let's look. Alex yu does the same thing as you, and o my, he has the WR!

#### Harris Chan

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Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.
You mean he orients the edges too? lol

#### masterofthebass

Yes, he orients edges, and uses M2 to permute them, instead of 3 cycles

#### Nghia

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So he orients both corners and edges ? How the hell does he manage to get such times ??

#### masterofthebass

he uses 3 cycles for the corners, but M2 for edge permutation. It allows for memo to be easier, and keeps nasty cases from popping up during edges.

#### Nghia

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and keeps nasty cases from popping up during edges.
What do you mean by "nasty cases"? Parity ? I've not considered M2 yet but what's different ? With 3 cycles at least you can solve 2 at a time, right ?

#### Swordsman Kirby

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Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.
Yes, let's look. Alex yu does the same thing as you, and o my, he has the WR!
So an idiot has the WR?

#### PatrickJameson

Now I have to beat your 4x4 times

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#### Swordsman Kirby

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My single/average is pretty fast for someone who never practices 4x4.

#### Inusagi

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Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.
Why is he an idiot?

#### Swordsman Kirby

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Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.
Why is he an idiot?
It's apparently bad, but I don't listen to people roughly half my speed at BLD.

#### Swordsman Kirby

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and keeps nasty cases from popping up during edges.
What do you mean by "nasty cases"? Parity ? I've not considered M2 yet but what's different ? With 3 cycles at least you can solve 2 at a time, right ?
Sorry for the double-post, but I don't like making long edits that include adding quotes.

The "nasty cases" refer to FU, BD, and BU for M2. The fast part about M2 is that the setups are very short in comparison to 3-cycle; 3-cycle gets ugly sometimes.

Also, the alg for cycling is faster. Two M2's is faster than a U-perm or other 3-cycle algorithms like M' U2 M U2.

#### Mike Hughey

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Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.
Why is he an idiot?
It's apparently bad, but I don't listen to people roughly half my speed at BLD.
Dan says he's about 1:30 at home now, so despite his competition times, I doubt he's half your speed (unless you do :45 solves at home).

Of course, I'm one to talk, since I'm roughly half of Dan's speed at BLD (at home, at least).

#### Swordsman Kirby

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Alex, he uses M2 + 3 cycle, but he's an idiot and orients before M2.
Why is he an idiot?
It's apparently bad, but I don't listen to people roughly half my speed at BLD.
Dan says he's about 1:30 at home now, so despite his competition times, I doubt he's half your speed (unless you do :45 solves at home).

Of course, I'm one to talk, since I'm roughly half of Dan's speed at BLD (at home, at least).
Well yeah, I talk to Dan all the time, I know his unofficial stuff. Regardless, he's slower.

I've never broken 1min... it's kind of a pre-requisite nowadays for being good at 3x3 BLD. What's consistency?