# 2x2x2 WR average

#### Dodges_Cuber 374

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Does anyone think It's possible to get a sub 1 average on 2x2x2.

#### qwr

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In a few years maybe some Chinese cuber with insane TPS and very lucky scrambles. Idk how many people are practicing 2x2 actively.

#### kubesolver

I think it's big distinction if you mean ao5 WR or global average.
I think it's definitely possible that someone will get sub-1 ao5.

#### Dodges_Cuber 374

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Yes But the question Is how long will It take And will It be acomplished with EG

#### Waffles

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Well given that some EG algs are extremely not optimal it would take quite a bit of luck to get the 10~ algorithms that are actually decent - 4 times in a row.

Also you would have to have reasonable first layer cases. So I doubt it’s gonna happen any time soon but maybe in 5 years

#### Waffles

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I kinda meant officially lol

#### abunickabhi

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Does anyone think It's possible to get a sub 1 average on 2x2x2.
Zayn Khanani is sub-1 on 2x2, and has been doing really well in [email protected] 2x2 solves. Once comps resume in the states, we can expect Zayn to break the 2x2 record and hopefully get a sub-1 average as well.

#### zzoomer

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Zayn is a 2x2 god. If anyone's getting sub-1 average officially, it's him.

#### qwr

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people do have sub 1 averages unofficially:
so it's just a matter of time and this stupid pandemic going away before WR average goes sub 1
yep this is evidence that if enough top solvers go to enough comps then it will happen eventually

#### Filipe Teixeira

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What does it say?
it will take 2 years, 7 months, 22 days, 7hours and 13.87 seconds by a method neutral chinese solver (full eg + tcll, SS, ortega and guimond and a new method simply known as "2ZRNG")

#### qwr

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it will take 2 years, 7 months, 22 days, 7hours and 13.87 seconds by a method neutral chinese solver (full eg + tcll, SS, ortega and guimond and a new method simply known as "2ZRNG")
and a new method known simply as... ZEROING

#### Legomanz

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Well given that some EG algs are extremely not optimal it would take quite a bit of luck to get the 10~ algorithms that are actually decent - 4 times in a row.
I don't think this is true. If the first solution I check gives a bad EG case, I would definitely look at other solutions. This might involve a different way of making a layer/face that gives a better case or has a nice cancellation, or I try looking at a completely different color.

Fundamentally, I think that all 2x2 scrambles have sub-1 potential.

There are several people who are capable of getting sub-1 averages relatively frequently, so it would not be too surprising to see one officially in the not-too-distant future.

Zayn Khanani is sub-1 on 2x2
Zayn isn't sub 1 lol. He averages 1 flat ig.
I wish I averaged sub-1 globally, lol. Currently, I would say my global is somewhere around 1.2.