[Help Thread] 2x2 Discussion and Help

[Timona]

Need help learning CLL. Should I learn a subset and then move over to the next one or do you just look for cases that stand out and learn them?

 

[Eli Apperson]

Need help learning CLL. Should I learn a subset and then move over to the next one or do you just look for cases that stand out and learn them?

Subsets, learn one, review, repeat

 

[NigelTheCuber]

So if you build the side and get bar on front, instead of doing EG-1, do an anti EG1 and cancel into R2 F2 R2 at the end.

So instead of doing y2 U' F2 R U R' U2 R U R' U' F, do R' F R2 U' R2 F R' F2 R2.

 

[Caden Fisher]

Are there any tricks for remembering Cll recognition? I’m learning Cll rn and I know H Pi T and U cases but I’m still kind of struggling to remember which alg goes to which case.

 

[Timona]

Are there any tricks for remembering Cll recognition? I’m learning Cll rn and I know H Pi T and U cases but I’m still kind of struggling to remember which alg goes to which case.

Pi and H are quite easy to remember since they have 4 stickers on the U face. So it all comes down to knowing which sticker combination goes with each alg. Learn the sticker pattern when you learn the alg so it's easier for you to remember.

T and U have 2 stickers on the top and on the right bar. This one is trickier than Pi and H, but you can recognise the cases by adj or opp sticker bars and a combination of the right bars and the stickers on the U face, if you understand what I mean.

Or you can just ignore everything I've said and watch Jperm's video instead.

 

[Caden Fisher]

Pi and H are quite easy to remember since they have 4 stickers on the U face. So it all comes down to knowing which sticker combination goes with each alg. Learn the sticker pattern when you learn the alg so it's easier for you to remember.

T and U have 2 stickers on the top and on the right bar. This one is trickier than Pi and H, but you can recognise the cases by adj or opp sticker bars and a combination of the right bars and the stickers on the U face, if you understand what I mean.

Or you can just ignore everything I've said and watch Jperm's video instead.

Makes sense. Thank you

 

[nicb4491]

I have learned Ortega, and my times for 2x2 are in the 0:10-0:20 range. Should I be faster than this, or does more speed require a more advanced method?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Eli Apperson]

I have learned Ortega, and my times for 2x2 are in the 0:10-0:20 range. Should I be faster than this, or does more speed require a more advanced method?
Thanks in advance.

You can get quite fast with just lbl, but Ortega is certainly also a fast method. The biggest part of getting faster at your speed is layer efficiency and alg speed and recognition.

 

[Imsoosm]

I have learned Ortega, and my times for 2x2 are in the 0:10-0:20 range. Should I be faster than this, or does more speed require a more advanced method?
Thanks in advance.

You should do the algs faster, and try predicting the PBL. That will surely decreases your time a lot because it reduces the amount of pauses. Also look for a more efficient first layer. I don't really like Ortega because you often have to cube rotate, I think LBL is better, but use whatever method is easier for you.

 

[Cubing Mania]

Hello fellow cubers! This is a thread for people who would like to discuss and help those who are in need of it, which explains the name of the thread.

To start of this thread, I would like to ask the first question. I've just started learning CLL, and I have already memorized the Sune set. My question is, how long does it usually take for you to recognize a certain case?

I don't do CLL, but I do know some cases. It takes me about 0.5 - 1.0 seconds. I hope you find this helpful!

 

[Imsoosm]

I don't do CLL, but I do know some cases. It takes me about 0.5 - 1.0 seconds. I hope you find this helpful!

Dude, that person hasn't been online since 2017.

 

[2x2sAreCool]

Hello! I am a cubing rookie that picked up the hobby because of a school competition. My event is the 2x2. Although I have seen some
videos on the topic, I realize the methods are very lengthy. Does anyone have any 2x2 algorithms for me to follow?

 

[levi.m]

the scramble is doing it white top green front R F2 R F2 R U F2 U2 R2

 

[NigelTheCuber]

Hello! I am a cubing rookie that picked up the hobby because of a school competition. My event is the 2x2. Although I have seen some
videos on the topic, I realize the methods are very lengthy. Does anyone have any 2x2 algorithms for me to follow?

just learn ortega method you can be sub 5 with it

 

[levi.m]

i already did

 

[TheSpeedSkewber]

Would it be possible to one look an ortega solve?

 

[Thom S.]

Would it be possible to one look an ortega solve?

Possible - yes.
But how possible?
If you can do a face in 2-4 moves everytime, it's not that hard to follow up, which pieces are where. The problem then comes with OLL because you most likely don't use pure OLL(because that's a stupid idea) and so you need to follow your piece placements once again for PBL.
If you can one-look forward to OLL, you will be able to One-Look CLL, EG1 and EG2 solves. Ortega would need an additional step. But if you learn that far, you'll already have fast Ortega solves and will have one-lookable CLL solves in the future.

 

[levi.m]

what was your luckiest scramble on two by two?

 

[2x2sAreCool]

just learn ortega method you can be sub 5 with it

Thank you so much! I've been practing these, and I'm already averaging sub 10

 

[NigelTheCuber]

what was your luckiest scramble on two by two?

A four mover solvable with R U R' U, I got 0.44