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Sebastián Pino Castillo Clock WRs Invalid

Discussion in 'General Speedcubing Discussion' started by Kirjava, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. Kirjava

    Kirjava Colourful

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    From the WCA Forum;

    A lot of people have thought something has been wrong for a while. Thanks to Daniel Sheppard and the IAC for investigating.

    When you watch the videos back, this explains a lot.

    Shouts to David Woner (6.25 Single) and Yu Sajima (7.53 Average) who have their current world records returned.
     
  2. Andrew Ricci

    Andrew Ricci Anonymity is for Nubs

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    The world record solve did seem EXTREMELY easy. I didn't really think he would resort to cheating, though. D:

    DAVID WONER HAS TEH WORLD RECORD!!!!!1111!!!!
     
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  3. vcuber13

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    i think when someone "manipulated WCA scrambles and gained an unfair advantage in WCA competition." it counts as cheating
     
  4. bamilan

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    What are the evidences?
     
  5. Andrew Ricci

    Andrew Ricci Anonymity is for Nubs

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    No, you misunderstood. I mean I didn't think he WOULD resort to such cheating, not that changing scrambles isn't considered cheating.
     
  6. AJ Blair

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    How was it discovered that he did this?
     
  7. AustinReed

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    Wow. Congrats to Woner then.
     
  8. JackJ

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    The Chilean cubers are starting to lose my respect... :(
     
  9. vcuber13

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    oh ok that makes sense
     
  10. DavidWoner

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    Why? "Mr. Pino has been cooperative with this process, and the WCA finds no reason to doubt the authenticity of records for anyone other than himself."
     
  11. qqwref

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    Wow, this is a big deal. I hope this doesn't hurt Chilean cubing.
     
  12. a small kitten

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    I'm looking at Sebastian's posts in this thread: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/s...k-s-Clock-New-WR-5.05-Sebastian-Pino-Castillo

    Wasn't there that time where some random Chilean guy or his judge reported a WR single (don't remember if that was by accident)? To me, the fact that he manipulated the scrambles and posted as if his record was legitimate is more telling of his behavior than his "cooperation". It could just be an attempt to avoid heavier consequences.
     
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  13. uberCuber

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    well that's embarrassing
     
  14. Stefan

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    1. Why?
    2. As far as I know, the WCA got the allegations of him cheating from Chilean cubers, and they helped with the investigation.
    3. Why don't you lose respect for let's say male cubers, since he's a male cuber? In fact, all convicted cheaters so far have been male!!!
     
  15. uberCuber

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    I have no respect for you or myself or any of the WR holders.
     
  16. IamWEB

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    Shelley is a mastermind at everything, including 'cheating.'
     
  17. blah

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    Because all Australian cubers are ridiculously fast.
     
  18. JackJ

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    Well, one main reason is a few months back I remember a thread being made claiming the new 3x3 WR single had been broken by a Chilean. While I personally didn't buy into it, it did fool a few people. Anyway, I do think I catagorized the Chileans into a group of cheaters, which was wrong. I apoligize.
     
  19. Tends to happen when you take actions of a few and apply it to a large group.
     
  20. TiLiMayor

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    Somehow, I got that feeling of 'justice has been made', although this its not exactly the way I expected to be.
     

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