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Discussion in 'General Speedcubing Discussion' started by Kirjava, Jul 28, 2010.

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  1. Kirjava

    Kirjava Colourful

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    Often I have ideas or thoughts that I'd like to post or discuss, but there doesn't exist a topic for. This happens a few times a week and usually consists of method ideas that don't yet merit their own threads - I resorted to discussing RouxZZ in the accomplishments thread, for example.

    Think of it like the one answer one question thread, but for adults.


    To start us off, I wanna post a video of kirjavaparity ^_^

     
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  2. Tord

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    Great idea, this thread will be an interesting read!

    Sticky!
     
  3. waffle=ijm

    waffle=ijm Waffo

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    O kirjava parity...sexy
     
  4. hawkmp4

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    That is a sexy parity.
     
  5. ariasamie

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    so actually it is going to be the new "I just realized that..." thread!
     
  6. Kirjava

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    I wouldn't post RANDOM stuff like this in that thread~

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  7. cincyaviation

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    After getting 2 PLL skips in a row and like 6 corner permutation skips after doing CLS, i realized that you could theoretically learn a bunch of algs for each case to solve the corners almost every time, i just don't know how many algs you would need.
     
  8. Kirjava

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    For CLS or OLL?

    OLLCP is quite popular already - I think CLS would be like a bajillion algs.
     
  9. vcuber13

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    well, if its 5 corners with 3 orientations, only half are possible, so it should be 5! x [3! / 2]
    or
    $$
    5! \times \frac{3!}{2}
    $$

    $$
    =120 \times 3
    $$

    $$
    =360$$

    not sure if this is right, but I think so.
     
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  10. Kirjava

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    That sounds wrong :/ isn't it more like 104*6 = 624?

    Also, recog would be fun. CLL with 5 corners XD
     
  11. cincyaviation

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    How many would it be to do CLS plus solve edges? corner perms are pretty fast too
     
  12. vcuber13

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    why 6?

    edit:
    like 1 step mgls (or ls or whatever)?
    21*104=~2100
     
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  13. Kirjava

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  14. Matt S

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    Except, not all six are distinguishable for symmetrical orientations.
     
  15. StachuK1992

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  16. Kirjava

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    Good point. That makes it an upper bound.

    I can't think of how to work out the true number of cases without manually omitting cases I know are symmetrical. Any ideas?
     
  17. qqwref

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    That Kirjava parity is clever as ****. Nice job.
     
  18. qqwref

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    It's like ten turns. Just figure it out from the video, invert, execute on a solved cube.
     
  19. ariasamie

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    Can someone give 1 or more scrambles with green on front, white on top, which when I hold the cube like orange on front and yellow on top and I do old pochmann for BLD I don't have to break into new cycles at all. and can you tell me where you got them from?
     

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