# Prizes at competitions

Discussion in 'Official WCA Competitions' started by Eelephant, Mar 13, 2018.

1. ### EelephantMember

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Ok, I'm new to this whole thing, admittedly, but I was planning on going to the WPIWinter Cubing Day competition (just to check it out, not compete), and was looking at the prizes and was shocked. The absolute top prize in the 3x3 competition was a CubeDepot gift card worth barely more than 2x the entry fee. The top prizes for all other categories were again in gift cards, and were worth EVEN LESS than the entry fee. Is this normal? I come from the chess world, and maybe it's not comparable, but I guarantee I would not bother to attend a tournament where the top prize is a gift cert for uschess.com barely worth 2x my entry fee. And I certainly wouldn't enter a category where even if I took first place, I would lose money.

The problem with gift cards as prizes? I am already a chess player/cuber, chances are I really don't need any more equipment at this time. Some extra cash, tho, to take the wife and kids out to a celebratory dinner? Now we are talking!

Speaking of the cash, the entry fee is $12, and they are capping the event at 110 competitors, meaning they could take in up to$1,320. None of that is going back to the competitors as prize money?

I guess I was just surprised. Is this normal?

2. ### Mike HugheySuper ModeratorStaff Member

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Yes, that's normal. The way it works is very dependent on the person running the competition, though. Many people who run competitions (including myself, back when I ran them) simply try to break even on competitions, but others do make money, which again goes different places depending on the organizer. Some donate to charities. Some keep the money - it all depends.

If you have to rent a venue, that can easily eat up hundreds or even thousands of dollars. At my last Indiana competition we took in over $2000 in entry fees, yet I unfortunately swallowed close to a$1000 loss, primarily due to the cost of a venue that could hold 200 competitors.

6. ### EelephantMember

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Understood, thanks!

7. ### EelephantMember

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Gotcha, thanks for the insight!

8. ### EelephantMember

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Anyone from this board going to this event?

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9. ### AidanNoogieMember

I'm going to WPI

10. ### CornerCutterMember

How many people actually keep the money? It's that looked down upon?

11. ### LoserMember

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That's creepy
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Idk how many people keep the extra money for personal uses, but I am keeping the extra money from my comp to fund future competitions
I for one would rather people not just spend the money on themselves, but give it to a charity, previously mentioned, or the venue for letting you use the space, or the delegate for helping out tremendously

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12. ### CornerCutterMember

Completely agree. I do the same thing about keeping the money for future competitions. I like to give the delegate a little extra too.