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One-Answer 3x3x3 Speedsolving Question Thread

Discussion in 'One-Answer Question Forum' started by teller, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. xyzzy

    xyzzy Member

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    I disagree. It's easy enough to get distracted or fatigued during a long session of solves, and that wouldn't be indicative of a competition setup either. (Unless you're the kind of person who participates in almost every event!) At a comp, you do only five solves per round and there's a long gap between rounds (if there are multiple rounds), which provides plenty of time for you to calm your nerves.

    Bad practice is worse than no practice at all. If you feel like your times are consistently getting worse even though you're not getting bad cases (nb: this is subjective), then just take a break. Go do something else for an hour or two.

    If that isn't normal, lol.
     
  2. CubingGenius

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    I think I had dinner in between and couldn't look ahead as well when I came back to solving, so that would probably be why.

    Thanks for the reply. I won't be worried if I get bad times next time then.
     
  3. FastCubeMaster

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    I just wanted to break it to you that improving from 23 seconds to sub 10 in one year is not gonna happen unless you spend hours per day practicing and you just insanely are good at every part of solving the cube.
    You could get close and maybe it's just me that's improving slow, i'm at 11 now, a year ago I think I was at 15-18
     
  4. CubingGenius

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    It's more like a goal. I'm not really expecting to average sub-10 by the end of the year, but I do expect to be at least averaging sub 12.
     
  5. pipkiksass

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    I'm impressed by your optimism, and will be interested to watch your progress. There are many people who average 15+ and have been cubing for years. You do realise that progress is exponential rather than linear? Having improved by e.g. 20 seconds in 6 months does not mean that, in another 6 months, you'll be averaging 3 seconds! [emoji6]

    Just wanted to chime in with this - from your previous posts, it sounds like you time ALL your solves. You're absolutely right about practicing inefficiency and bad habits, and that will definitely happen if you're timing yourself. Much better to turn off the timer and solve slowly and smoothly. Also read Escher's stickied post about "how to practice", it's pure gold.

    Good luck, and happy cubing!!!


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  6. CubingGenius

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    Yes, I know the improvement will become slower as I improve more.

    Yes, yesterday I was turning slower and focused on looking ahead for my next pair/block and the solves I was able to do this were generally 19-21 seconds compared to 25 seconds. I had done a lot of solves that day though, so I think I was a bit mentally exhausted and was struggling to do it every solve. The inspection for colour neutral ZZ for every solve was also a bit mentally draining.

    Thank you for all the helpful information. :)
     
  7. CubingGenius

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    Can someone please tell me what finger tricks they would use for these PLLs?

    R U R' U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2 R U' R'
    L' U' L U' L' U' L F L' U' L U L F' L2 U L U2 L' U L
     
  8. shadowslice e

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    R normal
    U normal
    R' Normal
    U push LUB with left index
    R normal
    U normal
    R' normal
    F' right thumb
    R normal
    U normal
    R' normal
    U' lefty flick
    R' regrip normal
    F right index flick UFR
    R2 normal- no regrip
    U' lefty flick
    R' normal
    U2 normal
    R normal
    U' normal
    R' normal

    I don't do lefty algs so I wouldn't know what feels the most natural. (I would guess the same as the first alg just mirrored for this)
     
  9. Dash Lambda

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    For the right hand:
    -Grip normally (zero regrips).
    -Left, right, left index fingers for the first 3 Us.
    -Right thumb for the next F' and U.
    -Lefty U'.
    -Right index F.
    -Lefty U'.
    -Right double flick U2.
    -Lefty U'

    I do the same with my left, just mirrored.
     
  10. CubingGenius

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    Thank you for the replies. I found a good, regripless way to do it.
     
  11. Tom Joad

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    If I just about get sub 20, let's say I can get 19.5 doing an average of 100 solves, then what could I realistically expect my personal best single to be?
     
  12. shadowslice e

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    It really depends on your method, how consistent your deviation is and how lucky you get. For roux or ZZ, I would say ~60% of your average. For CFOP ~50%.
     
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  13. CubingGenius

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    I did an average of 50 just now. The first 15 solves were averaging about 21.5 seconds and all the solves after that averaged about 24 seconds. I think after the first ~15 solves I lost my focus and started frequently getting 28+'s. I can keep a good focus for an avg12 as I just showed, but I can't keep it going past that. How can I train myself to improve this focus so I can get better quality solves for a longer period of time?
     
  14. shadowslice e

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    Practise.

    Or just take a break.
     
  15. CubingGenius

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    Thank you very much for the information.
     
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  16. Dom

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    I agree with @shadowslice e but would like to also add something Feliks Zemdegs said in an interview with CrazyBadCuber. When he asked if there was anything besides practice that can help get better times, Feliks said "Practice. Just practice. Practice slow." Feliks also pointed out that you don't need to be timing yourself every solve. Just walk around the house with a cube and solve slowly and pay attention to what you're doing.
     
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  17. CubingGenius

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    Thank you very much for this information. Do you know the youtube video he said this? I would be very interested to watch it.
     
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  18. Dom

    Dom Member

    It's an old one, but it's still a cool interview.
     
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  19. CubingGenius

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    Thank you! This video is greatly appreciated! :)
     
  20. Loiloiloi

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    Does anyone know roughly how long EOLS algorithms take? I haven't started to learn them so I don't know how fast they would be with finger tricks.

    Edit: what I mean to ask is, if I learned all the EOLS algorithms and practiced them, how quick could I do them?
     

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