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Linus Fresz DNF (24.00) FMC mean

Discussion in 'General Speedcubing Discussion' started by YouCubing, Mar 5, 2016.

  1. TheCoolMinxer

    TheCoolMinxer Member

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    Da heck. Really nice Linus! :D Too bad about Basti's 31 in the first attempt, but he had multiple WR's :)
     
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  2. Cale S

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    About time WR was improved, although now my chance at WR has gone down :(
     
  3. DuffyEdge

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    Awesome stuff, I'm looking forward to seeing the solutions :)

    Also why are people in Germany so good at FMC?
     
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  4. Iggy

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    Omg gj Linus!! :D
     
  5. Cale S

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    If he had Sébastien's solutions on the last two it would have been a 21.67 mean lol wat
     
  6. Bubtore

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    Or if Sébastien had his on the first one ;)
     
  7. Matt11111

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    I see you Noah. How long have you been perusing Cubecomps today?

    It's about time we had an average record broken for FMC.
     
  8. mycube

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    Thanks everyone!

    Here are my solutions:

    1. Scramble:
    Scramble: L2 D L2 U B2 U F2 U' F L F2 L' U2 R2 D2 B D L2 F'
    Inverse: F L2 D' B' D2 R2 U2 L F2 L' F' U F2 U' B2 U' L2 D' L2

    Start on Inverse:
    L2 D L2 U B2 - 1x2x3 - this was a quite obvious beginning for me, the rest of the solution is just trial and error.
    switch:
    F L2 D' B' D2 R2 - 2x2x3
    R U2 R' - F2L-1
    switch:
    U F' L F2 L' F' U' F - Finish + Skip

    Solution:
    F L2 D' B' D2 R' U2 R' F' U F L F2 L' F U' B2 U' L2 D' L2 - 21 Moves

    This is actually a controversal solution due to some similarity to the inverse scramble. It is the same start + ending like the inverse scramble, but there is a different part (to be exact: the switch-part on the inverse Scramble).
    I first realised this when I wrote down the solution and thought it was the full inverse solution. (Later Sébastien told me that it's not the exact inverse scramble). Luckily I did not find the skip on the normal scramble, it would have been a 19 and the full inverse scramble.

    After I stopped this attempt and gave my solution to Geert I discussed with Sébastien, I think we should consider some other scrambles for FMC in the future. The best idea I have is to just have scrambles with a lenght of 25 moves, so the inverse scramble is maybe a considerable solution, but not a potential sub20 solution (and right now: also Single WR).

    EDIT: Also there occured some case in the US some time ago, that there was a solution with 18 moves which happen to be the inverse scramble. Luckily nobody found this solution, but there happened to be a discussion here in some thread.

    2. Scramble:
    Scramble: D2 L2 F' U2 F L2 F L2 R' U R' U2 L' F R' B U' F2 R' D'
    Inverse: D R F2 U B' R F' L U2 R U' R L2 F' L2 F' U2 F L2 D2

    Start on Normal:
    B U2 L U - Pseudo2x2x2
    switch:
    U R' U - 2x2x2 + 1x2x2
    switch:
    F D R D' R - PseudoF2L-1
    switch:
    F2 - F2L-1
    switch:
    D F D' F' D2 F D2 F' - Finish

    L3C:
    B U2 L U F D R D' R D . F D' F' D2 F D2 F U' R U'
    . = R' F L F' R F L' F'

    Solution:
    B U2 L U F D R D' R D R' F L F' R F L' D' F' D2 F D2 F U' R U' - 26 Moves

    3. Scramble:
    Scramble: D2 R2 U2 R2 F2 U2 F U2 F2 R' B2 R' D2 B F2 D' L D2 F U'
    Inverse: U F' D2 L' D F2 B' D2 R B2 R F2 U2 F' U2 F2 R2 U2 R2 D2

    U2 B2 - Some Premoves
    switch:
    D' L D' - 1x2x2
    R' F2 R F R F' - 2x2x2
    B - 2x2x3
    sw:
    L' U2 L U2 - PseudoF2L-1
    L' U' L F' L F U L U - Finish + Skip

    Solution:
    U2 B2 L' U2 L U2 L' U' L F' L F U L U B' F R' F' R' F2 R D L' D - 25 Moves

    I have to admit - I was kind of lucky to have two solutions with a skip. Also it was kind of unexpected, but right now I am happy about my results.

    I am looking forward to see this mean being broken in the future. There are a lot of people who have the potential to break this WR, I am curious what will happen in the future :)
     
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  9. TDM

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    Amazing solutions. Congrats on the record!

    Is it just CR you need to be a platinum member now?
     
  10. DGCubes

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    Dang, that's crazy... finally broke the tie...
     
  11. I swear I only checked on it 3 times today :p That's less than normal on a Saturday for me, I'm weird
     
  12. Cale S

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    Congrats Linus :D
    Using your F2L - 1 on the second scramble I found a 25:

    B U2 L U // Pseudo2x2x2
    (U R' U) // 2x2x2 + 1x2x2
    F D R D' R // PseudoF2L-1
    (F2 D2) // to 3c3e

    B U2 L U F D R D' R D2 @ F2 U' R U'
    @ = D F D2 F' D

    B U2 L U F D R D' R # D' F D2 F' D F2 U' R U'
    # = [B, D' F D]

    B U2 L U F D R D' R B D' F % D B' D F' D F2 U' R U'
    % = [F', D' B' D]

    Final solution: B U2 L U F D R D' R B D2 B' D F D' B D2 B' D F' D F2 U' R U' (25)

    interested in seeing Sébastien's solutions
     
  13. Berd

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  14. h2f

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    Congrats! Very interesting situation in the first solve.
     
  15. Sebastien

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    Congratz as well from my side, it simply had to happen at some time.

    Too bad though that I don't even hold any FMC NR now. ;)

    I just posted them on the FMC-Thread. :)
     
  16. But he has a WR... Am I missing something?
     
  17. Isaac Lai

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    Currently, WRs are not counted as CRs, though there is some debate about that.
     
  18. tseitsei

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    Yep. You are missing the fact that the rules are stupid...

    Because for whatever reason WRs dont count as CRs :O

    Even tough quite obviously WR is also a CR which is also obviously a NR
     
  19. mycube

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    Thanks again everybody! :)

    I agree to some of the arguments that this are kind of weird rules to get platinum member. But on the other side I can understand that you just can have it when your history of world/continental records is finished. Maybe there could be two different versions of platinum member :)

    At least besides me there is only one person affected by this (Simon Westlund). All other gold members are missing more than just CR (e.g have WR but no Worlds podium/missing WR, CR, ...)
     

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