Improvements for M2/R2

Discussion in 'Blindsolving Discussion' started by Stefan, Oct 23, 2007.

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  1. Lucas Garron

    Lucas Garron Super-Duper Moderator Staff Member

    At Stefan's stuff:

    The inverse, too, if the second piece has the nice setup?
    Also, how's UF for a flipped easy setup?

    And this could make FU (and BD) comms more thoughtless:
    DF > FU > FL : U' L' U ( D [M', U R2 U'] D' ) U' L U
     
  2. Stefan

    Stefan Member

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    What? Do I even know you?

    Hey! I might not have attempted it the last 8.5 months, but last night I did it twice! Once with success, and it only took seven minutes! Booyaa!
     
  3. Stefan

    Stefan Member

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    The second time was btw one quarter turn off (in the middle of the solve) and took six minutes. Today I did another solve, success in five minutes. At this rate of improvement, I just need four more attempts to be world class.
     
  4. joey

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    Go Stefan!
    Are you using M2/R2?
     
  5. Stefan

    Stefan Member

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    Yes, the dumbed down version (meaning now I solve FU/BU/BD/BRU/RUB with longer algs so I don't have to orient them later).
     
  6. KJiptner

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    Would you mind sharing your algs with us? I mean for M2 there are quite some algs for the bad edges around. But I have never seen any for the two bad R2 cases.
     
  7. boiiwonder

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    Lol

    Why havent you attempted it for so long?
     
  8. Inusagi

    Inusagi Member

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    I can't get it. Could you give me an example with an official scramble?
     
  9. joey

    joey Member

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    There are two examples on his website.
    Stefan-pochmann.info
     
  10. Inusagi

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    I understand hes method, but not these improvements. I can't find an explanation of his improvements on hes site...:(
     
  11. Yes, you know him. The three of us have met last monday like we do every week. We even let you win a couple of games to make you feel better. That is when you realized you wanted to give both of us some nice presents like those V-Cubes and some other stuff that we will discuss again because I really don't need another flying pony.

    We don't mind that your memory is getting worse. It makes you more fun to be with. Now if only you could remember that you should quit smoking....

    :D
     
  12. Swordsman Kirby

    Swordsman Kirby Member

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    They're all on this thread.
     
  13. Inusagi

    Inusagi Member

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    Ok. But I still got a question. How would you solve the cube with that method, if it's scrambled like this:
    U2 M' U2 M M' U' M' U' M' U2 M U' M U' M U2
     
  14. ShadenSmith

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    The scramble can be simplified to this (and probably further):

    U2 M' U M' U' M' U2 M U' M U' M U2
     
  15. MistArts

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    U2 F2 U F B' R' F2 R F' B U (11f*)
     
  16. Mike Hughey

    Mike Hughey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    For what it's worth, here's how I solve that one in a normal BLD solve: an 8 move commutator with a setup move:

    B' U' R' U M' U' R U M B (or B' [U' R' U, M'] B)
     
  17. Swordsman Kirby

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    In M2, it would look like this.

    M2 M2 F R U R' E R U' R' E' F'

    But there's the obvious cancellation. :p
     
  18. Stefan

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    For the two bad R2 cases I pretty much use the algs I used to use for orienting, just changed by an R2 move.

    The algs I've switched to:
    FU: D M U R2 U' M' U R2 U' D' M2
    BD: M2 B' U' R' U M' U' R U M B
    BU: U R' U' l U' R U M2 U' R' U l' U R U'
    BRU: (R' U R2' U' R2 U' R' U) (R U R' U') (R2 U' R2 U R2')
    RUB: (R U R2' U' R2 U' R' U) (R U R' U') (R2 U' R2 U)

    Oh and last night I did my next attempt, success in four minutes (actually went from 5:04 to 3:57). So the one-minute-improvement-per-attempt continues. Are you scared yet?
     
  19. Mike Hughey

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    Wow - just 3 more solves to world record territory. You should just stop practicing now; at your next competition, the third solve should do the trick. Sorry, Rafal - looks like you're toast. :)
     
  20. blah

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    What happens at the competition after the next? He'll create his own negative time BLD solving competition (c.f. Macky's), and win it.

    For r2 I don't do the cancellations, I'd really just do r2 twice, even if it sounds and looks stupid. Reason: Can't think ahead. Reason for that reason: I'll forget whatever I was doing. Reason for that reason for that reason: My concentration sucks.
     

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