Hardest Scramble ever?

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  1. Felicko

    Felicko Member

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    I searched it up on google and got this:
    F , U , F2 , D , B , U , R , F , L , D , R , U , L , U , B , D2 , R , F , U2 , D2
    But I was wondering is it actually the hardest? Would it be harder if you repeated it on a cube?
     
  2. cyoubx

    cyoubx Member

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    There is no "hardest" scramble. There are hardER scrambles, and even then, it's circumstantial. Depending on the method used, a scramble could be easy for one person, and difficult for another.
     
  3. Shortey

    Shortey Premium Member

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    It's definetely not the hardest. I got 9.08.
     
  4. a small kitten

    a small kitten Member

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    ZZ has some pretty bad ones if you have fixed orientations. 12 wrong edges is nasty.
     
  5. Rinfiyks

    Rinfiyks Member

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    I got 26.34, slightly faster than average. And I'm not warmed up. The worst scramble for Fridrich would be an obvious but long cross that leads into an obvious but long F2L that leads into the worst OLL/PLL combo.
     
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  6. DeathCuberK

    DeathCuberK Member

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    Used your scramble, got 17.11, which is faster than average for me.

    F U' F2 D' B U R' F' L D' R' U' L U B' D2 R' F U2 D2
    (I think you forgot the prime symbols)
     
  7. Felicko

    Felicko Member

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    Yeah, I think the prime symbols got left out...
     
  8. masteranders1

    masteranders1 Member

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  9. Ranzha

    Ranzha Friendly, Neighbourhoodly Staff Member

    Erm, from what you posted, try green cross. Lolpairs.

    z2
    U l' U F' R F U x2
    y' R U R' y2 R U2 R' U y R U' R' U
    y' (R U' R') U
    y' (R U' R') U'
    y' (R U' R') U
    Antisune
    U2 F-perm

    14.62 seconds, where I average high 18.
     
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  10. Cyrus C.

    Cyrus C. Member

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    2010COLA01
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    What website did you get that scramble from? I'd like to see their proof.
     
  11. Rinfiyks

    Rinfiyks Member

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    http://cube20.org/

    It really is the hardest scramble. I had a pop and couldn't find a corner piece for 3 minutes.
     
  12. Felicko

    Felicko Member

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  13. Sa967St

    Sa967St Moderator Staff Member

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    Superflip + M2E2S2 is pretty bad.
     
  14. Johan444

    Johan444 Member

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    OLL skip + H perm :D
     
  15. I just got my fastest single solve (lucky) with this. 8.97 seconds. I skipped R-Layer corners. I
     
  16. Ranzha

    Ranzha Friendly, Neighbourhoodly Staff Member

    y z2'
    U M' U M U2 M U2 M'
    U2 y' M' U2 M2 U' M' U'
    M' U' M U2 M' U' M
    (This is where is gets bad)
    z M' U M' U M' U M' U'
    R U R' U' r' U2 R U R U' R2' U2' r U2
    M S2 M S2.
    Edit: 17.00.
     
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  17. Rinfiyks

    Rinfiyks Member

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    Cross: z2 F' R' y2 F' R' y R' D'
    F2L 1: U2 R' U R U' y L U L'
    F2L 2: R' U R U L' U' L
    F2L 3: R U2 R' U y L' U' L
    F2L 4: U2 R U R' U2 R U' R'
    OELL: U R' U' F' U F R
    OCLL: U R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 R
    PLL: U' R U2 R' U' R U2 L' U R' U' L
    65 HTM
     
  18. BigSams

    BigSams Member

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    Not really, I just intuitively do F B D R L' F2 U2 B every time (you do the last of the 4-4-4 on B so that you can have a clear look ahead for Line) and then do a Line which should be like a few fast flicks. Doing a set alg for the 12 bad case EO followed by an alg for Line that you prepared during the EO is way faster and more reliable than trying to figure out optimal EOLine for the 12 case.
    Oh and using the OP's scramble, I got OCLL skip in ZZ lawl.
     
  19. Diniz

    Diniz Member

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    So you do a 8 moves EO plus the moves to do the line? Thats not a good solution at all..
     
  20. TMOY

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    Not for corners first :p
     
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