# [WR] Feliks Zemdegs - 5.97 3x3 average

Discussion in 'WR/CR/NR solves' started by JustAnotherGenericCuber, Jun 28, 2017.

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1. ### tx789Member

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I'm not surprised he broke it again. Sub 6 is getting so fast.

2. ### schapelMember

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"Remember when having a 5.97 single was cool? Yeah me too." - Drew Brads

Insane!

4. ### Luke8Member

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No video yet. Awesome job Feliks!

Oops, I posted this in the WR/CR/NR area. Thought it would be there and didn't see it. Awesome job! A sub 6 single is always accompanied by large cheering, and this is a sub 6 average! We now have an official average better than Erik Akkersdijk's 7.08 single! I wonder how many were full step.

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5. ### guysensei1Member

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Ayy

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6. ### FastCubeMasterMember

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Ayyyy

And I still don't even have a sub 6 single :/

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7. ### BrestSuper ReconstructorStaff Member

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Feliks Zemdegs - 5.97 3x3 WR av5 - Latin America Cubing Tour - Chía 2017

B' U2 R2 F' U2 L2 B' D' B' R2 B R' F2 L' B2 U2 B U'

x2 y // inspection
r' U' R2' F' U' F' D2' // Xcross
U2 L' U L // 2nd pair
U' R U2' R' L U' L' // 3rd pair
U2' R U2' R' U R U' R' // 4th pair
r U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U' r' // OLL
R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' U' // PLL
View at alg.cubing.net
Code:
Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	5.55	51	9.19	56	10.09		%
Step		Time	STM	ETM
F2L	3.55	25	7.04	30	8.45		F2L/Total	64.0%	49.0%	53.6%
LL	2.00	26	13.00	26	13.00		LL/Total	36.0%	51.0%	46.4%

Cross+1	1.18	7	5.93	7	5.93		Cross+1/F2L	33.2%	28.0%	23.3%
OLS	1.87	19	10.16	21	11.23		OLS/Total	33.7%	37.3%	37.5%
PLL	0.80	14	17.50	14	17.50		PLL/LL		40.0%	53.8%	53.8%
B' U2 R2 F' U2 L2 B' D' B' R2 B R' F2 L' B2 U2 B U'

x2 y // inspection
r' U' R2' F' U' F' D2' // Xcross
U U L' U L // 2nd pair
U' R U' U' R' L U' L' // 3rd pair
U' U' R U' U' R' U R U' R' // 4th pair
r U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U' r' // OLL
R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' U' // PLL
View at alg.cubing.net
L2 B2 L2 D2 L2 F' R' F2 D R' F2 R U' R' D' L' R

z2 // inspection
F' U' R D r F r' // Xcross
U' y' R' U2' R2 U' R2' U' R // 2nd / 3rd pairs
y' R U2' R' U' R U R' // 4th pair
U2' R U R' U' R' F R F' // OLL
R U R' U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2 R U' R' U' // PLL
View at alg.cubing.net
Code:
Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	5.64	54	9.57	57	10.11		%
Step		Time	STM	ETM
F2L	3.57	23	6.44	26	7.28		F2L/Total	63.3%	42.6%	45.6%
LL	2.07	31	14.98	31	14.98		LL/Total	36.7%	57.4%	54.4%

Cross+1	1.77	8	4.52	9	5.08		Cross+1/F2L	49.6%	34.8%	34.6%
OLS	1.53	16	10.46	17	11.11		OLS/Total	27.1%	29.6%	29.8%
PLL	1.24	21	16.94	21	16.94		PLL/LL		59.9%	67.7%	67.7%
L2 B2 L2 D2 L2 F' R' F2 D R' F2 R U' R' D' L' R

z2 // inspection
F' U' R D r F R' R r' // Xcross
U' y' R' U2' R2 U' R2' U' R // 2nd / 3rd pairs
y' R U2' R' U' R U R' // 4th pair
U2' R U R' U' R' F R F' // OLL
R U R' U R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U2 R U' R' U' // PLL
View at alg.cubing.net
U' B2 R2 U2 R2 U B' L' U L' F' R D L' B D' F2 U'

z // inspection
R2 D R2' F' // cross
U' R' U R U' L U L' // 1st pair
U' L' U L y' U' L U L' // 2nd pair
d' R U R' y' R U R' // 3rd pair
y U R U' R' U2 R U2' R' // 4th pair
U R U R' U R U2' R' // OLL
U R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' U // PLL
View at alg.cubing.net
Code:
Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	6.58	61	9.27	64	9.73		%
Step		Time	STM	ETM
F2L	4.44	37	8.33	40	9.01		F2L/Total	67.5%	60.7%	62.5%
LL	2.14	24	11.21	24	11.21		LL/Total	32.5%	39.3%	37.5%

Cross+1	1.77	14	7.91	14	7.91		Cross+1/F2L	39.9%	37.8%	35.0%
OLS	1.37	16	11.68	17	12.41		OLS/Total	20.8%	26.2%	26.6%
PLL	1.21	14	11.57	14	11.57		PLL/LL		56.5%	58.3%	58.3%
U' B2 R2 U2 R2 U B' L' U L' F' R D L' B D' F2 U'

z // inspection
R2 D R2' F' // cross
U' R' U R U' L L' L U L' // 1st pair
U' L' U L y' U' L U L' // 2nd pair
d' R U R' y' R U R' // 3rd pair
y U R U' R' U2 R U2' R' // 4th pair
U R U R' U R U2' R' // OLL
U R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' U // PLL
View at alg.cubing.net
B D2 B U2 R2 B' U2 F L' D' U R D L F2 L2 F2 L

x // inspection
r' U2 R2 D' R' D // cross
R' U' R U R' U2' R // 1st pair
U' L U L' // 2nd pair
U' L' U L d R U R' // 3rd pair
U2 R' U' R // 4th pair
F R U R' U' F' // EO
U R' U2' R U R' U R F U R U2' R' U R U R' F' // ZBLL
View at alg.cubing.net
Code:
Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	6.67	55	8.25	56	8.40		%
Step		Time	STM	ETM
F2L	3.14	29	9.24	29	9.24		F2L/Total	47.1%	52.7%	51.8%
LL	3.53	26	7.37	27	7.65		LL/Total	52.9%	47.3%	48.2%

Cross+1	1.64	13	7.93	13	7.93		Cross+1/F2L	52.2%	44.8%	44.8%
OLS	3.70	30	8.11	31	8.38		OLS/Total	55.5%	54.5%	55.4%
ZBLL	1.90	17	8.95	18	9.47		ZBLL/LL		53.8%	65.4%	66.7%
B D2 B U2 R2 B' U2 F L' D' U R D L F2 L2 F2 L

x // inspection
r' U2 R2 D' R' D // cross
R' U' R U R' U2' R // 1st pair
U' L U L' // 2nd pair
U' L' U L d R U R' // 3rd pair
U2 R' U' R // 4th pair
F R U R' U' F' // EO
U U' U R' U' U' R U R' U R F U R U2' R' U R U R' F' // ZBLL
View at alg.cubing.net
D2 L2 U R2 U' B' D R B' F R2 D' U2 B2 R2 D L B2 L2

y x' // inspection
D F R D2 F // cross
U' L U' L' U' y R U' R' // 1st pair
y' U2 R U' R' L U' L' // 2nd pair
U R U R' U' L' U L // 3rd pair
(U R U' R')3 // 4th pair
U' F R U R' U' R U' R' U' R U R' F' // ZBLL
View at alg.cubing.net
Code:
Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	5.70	54	9.47	58	10.18		%
Step		Time	STM	ETM
F2L	3.81	39	10.24	42	11.02		F2L/Total	66.8%	72.2%	72.4%
LL	1.89	15	7.94	16	8.47		LL/Total	33.2%	27.8%	27.6%

Cross+1	1.54	13	8.44	14	9.09		Cross+1/F2L	40.4%	33.3%	33.3%
OLS	2.57	12	4.67	12	4.67		OLS/Total	45.1%	22.2%	20.7%
ZBLL	1.01	13	12.87	13	12.87		ZBLL/LL		53.4%	86.7%	81.3%
D2 L2 U R2 U' B' D R B' F R2 D' U2 B2 R2 D L B2 L2

y x' // inspection
D F R D2 F // cross
U' L U' L' U' y R U' R' // 1st pair
d U R U' R' L U' L' // 2nd pair
U R U R' U' L' U L // 3rd pair
(U R U' R')3 // 4th pair
U U' U' F R U R' U' R U' R' U' R U R' F' // ZBLL
View at alg.cubing.net
Code:
Average (removing fastest and slowest solve)

Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	5.97	56	9.43	60	9.99		%
Step		Time	STM	ETM
F2L	3.94	33	8.38	36	9.14		F2L/Total	66.0%	58.6%	60.3%
LL	2.03	23	11.48	24	11.64		LL/Total	34.0%	41.4%	39.7%

Cross+1	1.69	12	6.89	12	7.28		Cross+1/F2L	43.0%	35.4%	34.3%
OLS	1.82	15	8.04	15	8.41		OLS/Total	30.5%	26.0%	25.7%
PLL	1.15	16	13.87	16	13.87		PLL/LL		56.7%	68.6%	67.6%
Code:
Mean (5/5)

Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	6.03	55	9.12	58	9.65		%
Step		Time	STM	ETM
F2L	3.70	31	8.27	33	9.02		F2L/Total	61.4%	55.6%	57.4%
LL	2.33	24	10.49	25	10.66		LL/Total	38.6%	44.4%	42.6%

Cross+1	1.58	11	6.96	11	7.22		Cross+1/F2L	42.7%	35.9%	34.1%
OLS	2.21	19	8.42	20	8.88		OLS/Total	36.6%	33.8%	33.7%
PLL	1.23	16	12.82	16	12.99		PLL/LL		53.0%	64.8%	64.5%
Code:
Best from each field

Step	Time	STM	stps	ETM	etps
Total	5.55	51	9.57	56	10.18

F2L	3.14	23	10.24	26	11.02
LL	1.89	15	14.98	16	14.98

Cross+1	1.18	7	8.44	7	9.09
OLS	1.37	12	11.68	12	12.41
PLL	0.80	13	17.50	13	17.50
• generally time measurements are taken from the end of the previous step to the end of the current step

Total is the total solve - timed from timer start to timer stop

F2L is the first two layers (including cross) - timed from timer start to end of 4th pair
LL is the last layer - timed from end of 4th pair to timer stop

Cross+1 is the cross and first pair (and/or Xcross) - timed from timer start to end of 1st pair
F2L-1 is the cross and first three pairs - timed from timer start to end of 3rd pair
OLS is the last slot (4th pair) and orientation of the last layer - timed from end of 3rd pair to end of OLL
PLL is the permutation of last layer - timed from the frame before the first move to the frame after the last move (does not include any pre- or post-AUF/rotations)

where applicable:
• ZBLL / OLLCP / EPLL / ELL stats replace PLL
• OLS stats include ZBLL / OLLCP / COLL (as this is when orientation is solved)

8. ### SionMember

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HOLY! HE BLEW MAX PARK AWAY! Its so funny that there was a time were people thought this was impossible. WOW.

9. ### guysensei1Member

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Should've done the lefty OLL on the 2nd solve and get a U perm instead of N perm, would've been a little faster?

But what do i know i avg 11 lul

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10. ### SajwoMember

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Wouldn't change much, only 0.03s faster average.

Amazing achievement though, last solve was such a clutch. The moment he was calculating the average was so intense I almost sh*t myself.. even though I already knew it's a WR

11. ### EmperorZantMember

"Awwwww-maybe it's not! Aw, no-I think it is..."
I loved hearing Feliks' reaction there

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12. ### GomorriteMember

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It seems that with this record he has reached Max's TPS. So now it is only Zemdegs' slightly more efficient solutions that gives him the advantage.

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13. ### SajwoMember

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Feliks has an advantage of knowing several hundreds more algs and also being overally faster. You can't really compare their TPS basing on only 5 solves

14. ### GomorriteMember

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By looking at recent reconstructions by both of them, it seems that those hundreds of algorithms result in roughly 2-3 less turns per solve, about a 3-5% less. And if you compare their recent average of averages, Zemdegs is around a 3% faster at the moment. I think their TPS are quite equal right now.

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18.75 peak TPS, on a T perm. How is that even humanly possible?!

16. ### BrestSuper ReconstructorStaff Member

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Re-checked this after your post and there was a miss-count. It's *only* 17.50 TPS on the Tperm.

Also of note, except for PLL (and ZBLL where applicable) the TPS for each step is measured from the end of the step before. For PLL I measure from the frame before the 1st turn to the frame after the last turn (no auf) so it's a measure of "burst" TPS.

17. ### GomorriteMember

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I think it is wrong though, if you look at the first solve, you will see it was 17.5 TPS (still crazy). The "Best from each field" is calculating the TPS with the time of one permutation and the moves of another one, which doesn't make much sense.

@Brest is this intended to be like this?

EDIT: way too late!

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OK - still incredibly fast though!

19. ### GomorriteMember

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Only after Brest mentioned frames did I notice that Zemdegs has been recording and uploading his solves at 60 fps... It makes it amazing to watch at x0.25 speed.

20. ### FJT97Member

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Wut? Why did he do F R U' R' F on the fourth solve and then zbll? Why not just the OLL and then pll instead?

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