# F2L Algorithms, How Long?

Discussion in 'Cubing Help & Questions' started by Zyrb, Jul 24, 2010.

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1. ### ZyrbMember

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Hi,

I am currently trying to learn all 42 Friedrich algorithms, and I wanted to know how many I should be learning a day. One a day seemed too slow, then I tried 4 in a day, and that made me go near crazy. So maybe I've already answered my question, but I want to know what you think. Should I force myself to learn them super fast, or should I learn them more leisurely.

2. ### RopedBBQMember

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F2L ALGORITHMS? No, no, no. Try watching video tutorials, you dont NEED to learn algorithms. You can do F2L just with a few cases.

This is what you need. F2L is not ever ever about algorithms, unless you are crazy. Maybe when you get really fast. But maybe. F2L should and can be intuitive, especially when you start F2L.

And if you are stuck on learning algorithms, try just learning them at your own pace, and when you get fast with the last algorithm you learned, and can remember how to recognize it, then learn another. However I strongly disagree with F2L being about learning algorithms, unless you are using the beginner method.

3. ### waffle=ijmWaffo

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its not a fucking friedrice method.

Last edited: Jul 24, 2010
4. ### ZyrbMember

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I've tried to learn the intuitive way, I've watched badmephisto's and monkeydude1313's guides but for some reason my brain works better with a sequence or combination AKA an algorithm. Though, if its worth it I'll try to learn it that way. Also, just as a note I am using the beginners method right now.

5. ### TheCubeEliteMember

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I thought the same thing, until one day my brain just finally snapped and I new all F2L for some reason. I just randomly understood what to do. Give it time. Learn intuitively.

6. ### ZyrbMember

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Okay cool, do you recommend any certain guide

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8. ### Sa967StModeratorStaff Member

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I learned them in a day and a half.

9. ### uberCuberMember

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this made me lol

10. ### flanPremium Member

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I didnt know about intuitive f2l when I learned the algorithms because Dan Harris' book didn't tell me too. The algorithmic method set me back a month or two untill suddenly I could see what the algorithms were doing. I now feel like I'm solving f2l intuitivly. Even with the algorithms once your used to them it doent feel like your blindly applying and algorithm like pll does. It feels like solving the cross or block building feels like...logical. Personally I dont think algorithmic f2l is as bad as its made out to be. But what do I know

11. ### ZyrbMember

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...You guys win, I've learned the basic intuitive F2L. What about the top layer? I still use the beginner method for that.

12. ### uberCuberMember

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13. ### ZyrbMember

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ok, cool thanks

14. ### jiggyMember

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Last edited: Jul 26, 2010
15. ### cincyaviationMember

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