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A Roux guide for beginners

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Hi,
I learned CFOP but since the first days I've been interested in Block Building Methods.
Recently I decided to learn Roux too and in order to memorise the steps of the method I collected images and simple algs in a document.
I want to share this pdf hoping someone else (a beginner like me) can switch to this method quickly and see its potential.
Let me know for errors or how to improve the document.
the doc is here

thanks to waffo and the donovan's video tutorials
 
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Very nice doc, thanks. I'm a newbie to CFOP as well, and I've been dabbling in/mess Roux. I've tried a few Roux solves, it seems very easy, but I struggle with planning my blocks. I'm too used to planning cross + first pair with CFOP!

Out of interest, how do your Roux averages compare to your CFOP averages?
 
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On a slightly more serious note, this is really helpful. Thanks a ton :D. The only thing I would say is step 4b seems to be made much more confusing than it should be. I think you should remove the algs for that step and describe it like Waffo: Put UL and UR edges in opposite positions of the cube (for example UF and DB), do M' U2 M' and then insert.
 
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What's the point of Roux if you're already good with Fridrich? Seems like Fridrich is better, anyway. I tried this tutorial, but it seemed like most of the moves were way to tedious and intuitive.
 
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What's the point of Roux if you're already good with Fridrich?
Techniques from block building can improve your f2l and/or cross in CFOP, and it's fun!

Seems like Fridrich is better, anyway.
Mmmm... Depends on the person but "methods don't have speeds" and all that. You should give it a fair chance.

it seemed like most of the moves were way to tedious and intuitive.
Intuitive may not be bad. It may seem difficult in the beginning but gets easier as you practice more. One reason people like this method because of its lower movecount, which can only be achieved if you block build intuitively well.
 
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Hi,
I learned CFOP but since the first days I've been interested in Block Building Methods.
Recently I decided to learn Roux too and in order to memorise the steps of the method I collected images and simple algs in a document.
I want to share this pdf hoping someone else (a beginner like me) can switch to this method quickly and see its potential.
Let me know for errors or how to improve the document.
the doc is here



thanks to waffo and the donovan's video tutorials
Wow, very nice tutorial!! I will bookmark the link.
 
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at sub-15 with CFOP, i started roux for a little over 2 months and managed to get to a sub-18 session with a PB single of 11.04. (CFOP PB at the time was 9.09)
"methods don't have speeds" i think is very accurate. if you can be sub-x with CFOP, you can be sub-x with Roux, since there seems to be a consensus that both are among the best of methods.

and this was only 2 months. my very first Roux solve was the day those 2 months began, and my first solve was 3:24, with a PB of 1:00 by the end of the day. that was a tiring day.

i'm still not 100% comfortable with roux like i am with CFOP, but after about 1.5 months i was able to get to a solid sub-20 level, and i have gained great respect for the method ever since. i love it. i love H perms and Z perms simply because it feels like Roux.

i have also discovered new inserts and new ways to look at the relationship between pieces in CFOP. also new finger tricks like quicker slice turns, and a better overall understanding and recognition habit of EO and LLCP.

/endrant
 
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Great guide!
This might help me get back into Roux, but could you add some examples for blockbuilding and/or make add an example solve?


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Intuitive may not be bad. It may seem difficult in the beginning but gets easier as you practice more. One reason people like this method because of its lower movecount, which can only be achieved if you block build intuitively well.
Lower move count? I must have been doing it wrong, I guess. It took my like 50 moves and tons of mistakes to get the first block.
 
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The first two layers using F2L is generally ~35 moves in a speedsolve. So even if you applied the same F2L techniques for making the first block, which is very inefficient, it should still require only a fraction of that number.
 
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