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F2B Solutions

jms_gears1

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So this is the exact same idea as my f2l Solution thread but this time I want F2B or First two Blocks. this applys mostly to the Roux method although i guess Technically zz people could also post.

Scrambles
1)F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

2)L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'

3)B2 L' R F2 L U' F' U' D2 R2 U D2 R2 F2 D2 B R B L2 R' U B2 D2 B2 R2

4)B' F' U' L' R F2 D L D' U F R2 F' D' U L D2 U2 F2 D2 R' L2 U2 B' U2

5)L2 U' R L2 D F2 L2 R U2 D2 B2 F U' L B2 D U2 B2 R' U2 L B' D F R2

I am not yet going to post solutions because all of my solutions end up being F2L or petrus style block building which doesnt work well with roux.
 

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Pff, my solutions are written incorrectly and I'm too lazy to fix them so I'll post them another day.
 
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Everything was scrambled yellow top blue front. That is my ZZ scheme.

F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

EO Line: R’ L’ F y R U’ R y’ R U F2

Left Block: U L U L’ R’ U R2 L’ U L

19 moves

The rest of the F2L becomes very fast 2 gen.

L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'

EO Line: y2 D’ R D F L D y R2 y

Right Block: R’ L2 U R’ U R2 L’ U’ L’ R U’ R’

19 moves again

B2 L' R F2 L U' F' U' D2 R2 U D2 R2 F2 D2 B R B L2 R' U B2 D2 B2 R2

EO Line: U D’ B’ R F’ R’ F D U2 B2

Right Block: U R U’ R’ U2 R U’ R’ L R’ U R

Very easy right “block”. 22 moves though

B' F' U' L' R F2 D L D' U F R2 F' D' U L D2 U2 F2 D2 R' L2 U2 B' U2

EO Line: L’ R2 B L F’ L’ F’ L D’

Right Block: L’ R U2 R’ U’ R U R U R’ U R U’ R’

23 moves. Lucky most of the right block save the L’ is fast.

L2 U' R L2 D F2 L2 R U2 D2 B2 F U' L B2 D U2 B2 R' U2 L B' D F R2

EO Line: F B’ U F R F’ D

Right Block: U L’ U2 R’ U2 R’ U2 R U2 R’ U’ R

After the L’ things get very very fast lol. 19 moves.
 

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I used a couple of minutes per solution; I haven't used Roux enough for my speedsolves to make any sense.

Scramble: F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'
D R2 L' U' F U2 B (7)
M' U' M U' R U' R2 B' R B2 U2 B' (12)

Scramble: L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'
L2 U2 F B' R F D' F z2 x' (7)
M' U2 Rw' U' Rw U2 R U R (9)

Scramble: B2 L' R F2 L U' F' U' D2 R2 U D2 R2 F2 D2 B R B L2 R' U B2 D2 B2 R2
B2 U' R2 F L' U2 L2 y (7)
B' R2 B Rw U' R U' M' U2 R U R' (12)

Scramble: B' F' U' L' R F2 D L D' U F R2 F' D' U L D2 U2 F2 D2 R' L2 U2 B' U2
L' U L' U' B2 D' B' D x' (8)
R2 D R' U2 R D' U' R' U2 R M U R' (13)

Scramble: L2 U' R L2 D F2 L2 R U2 D2 B2 F U' L B2 D U2 B2 R' U2 L B' D F R2
B' U2 F U' L F2 z' (6)
R' U R' U Rw' M U' R' (8)

Optimal first blocks in FTM are 6, 6, 5, 6, 5. The 5-movers look very obvious now, but I didn't inspect for much more than 15s.
 

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I scrambled with white on top and green on front.

1. F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

z' M2 U R' F R U R' U x' (8)
r U M' U' R U r2 M' U R' (10)

2. L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'

z' x2 U' R2 D r B' r' U' M2 U' x (9)
U' r' U R' U2 R' U r' M U r U' r' (13)

3. B2 L' R F2 L U' F' U' D2 R2 U D2 R2 F2 D2 B R B L2 R' U B2 D2 B2 R2

y' z' R U2 B r2 U' x (5)
R2 U' M' U' R U r2 U M U R' (11)

I'm a little short on time at the moment. I'll get the rest done later.
 

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Scramble: F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

U' R2 U' F' U S B L z2y (8)
S' U2 S U' R U R2 U R' M U M' r U R' (15)

Scramble: L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'

S'U'S R M B M' B z2 y2(8)
U R U R' U' R2 U R U' R U R'U2 R U R'(16)
 
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couhgwaffle you should postcough

now i will. i'm not that good with the second block. please tell me if any of them don't work.

1)1ST BLOCK - L2 U' R' D' F2 D y'x' L2 U2 F (9)
2ND BLOCK - L M' U2 Lw' U' L U2 L U M U L' U' Lw U L' (16)

2) 1ST BLOCK - x (U D') R' U2 R U' M' U' (8)
2ND BLOCK - x U' Lw M U' M' U Lw U' L' U' L' U2 x D L' D' L U2 M2 U2 L' U L (22)

3) 1ST BLOCK - y U R' U2 R' U F' R2 U M U2 M2 B (12)
2ND BLOCK - U' R U' M' U' M' U Rw U R2 U2 R U M' Rw U R' (17)
(I didn't like this case so much)

4) 1ST BLOCK - B2 U F2 R y' F2 M2 F (7)
2ND BLOCK - Lw2 U' L2 U' M Lw U L' U2 M2 U2 L' U L (14)

5) 1ST BLOCK - D' R y U' M U' M' U (7)
2ND BLOCK - x' M U M' Rw U R' U2 M' U2 Rw' U' R (12)
 
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I'm not so great at roux, but whatever. All movecounts in STM.

1)F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

R' F R L' x2 U' D' R' u2 U2 R u' (11)
r2 U R' U R' r' U' R M' F' U' F2 R' F' R (26)

2)L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'

x U R' U' x2 B' U M' U' M L U' (10)
x U' R U2 R2 U' R' U2 R U' R' (20)

3)B2 L' R F2 L U' F' U' D2 R2 U D2 R2 F2 D2 B R B L2 R' U B2 D2 B2 R2

D B U' F D2 y R U R U' R' M' D L U L' D' (16)
U' M' U' r' U R (22)

4)B' F' U' L' R F2 D L D' U F R2 F' D' U L D2 U2 F2 D2 R' L2 U2 B' U2

x y U' M2 D F D' y' x U' M U' M2 U (10)
x' y2 r2 U' R2 U' R U2 R' U R U' R' U M' U2 r' U' R (27)

5)L2 U' R L2 D F2 L2 R U2 D2 B2 F U' L B2 D U2 B2 R' U2 L B' D F R2

too lazy for 5th. maybe later.
 

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[HTM, STM]

1) F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

DF'R'U2RBU2B2L y'
M2RU'RUR2UR2
[18,17]

5) L2 U' R L2 D F2 L2 R U2 D2 B2 F U' L B2 D U2 B2 R' U2 L B' D F R2

U'B'U2LF'z'
U'rRUB'R2BU2M'U'R
[17,16]
 
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My zz-method solutions:

Yellow on top, blue on front:

1)F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

EO-Line: L' R' F' y R U' R D' L D (9)
Right block: R U' R' U R2 U2 L' U2 L U2 R (11) - total: 20

2)L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'

EO-Line: D L D B F2 (5)
Right block: R L2 u L2 u' L R' U R (9) - total: 14

3)B2 L' R F2 L U' F' U' D2 R2 U D2 R2 F2 D2 B R B L2 R' U B2 D2 B2 R2

EO-Line: U F D F' B U2 B2 (7)
Right block: U L R' U R L U' L R U' R (11) - total: 18


4)B' F' U' L' R F2 D L D' U F R2 F' D' U L D2 U2 F2 D2 R' L2 U2 B' U2

EO-Line: R2 F' L F' B U' L D' (8)
Left block: L2 U L2 R2 U' R2 U' L' (8) - total: 16

5)L2 U' R L2 D F2 L2 R U2 D2 B2 F U' L B2 D U2 B2 R' U2 L B' D F R2

EO-Line: F' B' U F R F' D (7)
Right block: u' U R2 u R' L' U R U R' (10) - total: 17
 
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1.) F2 D2 F2 U2 L B2 F' R U' R U2 L B' D R2 U B D' R2 B U' D' L2 R D'

2.) L B L' D2 F' B2 L2 B' D2 F R2 B2 U' B2 U R D2 U2 F2 L R2 U R F B'

3.) B2 L' R F2 L U' F' U' D2 R2 U D2 R2 F2 D2 B R B L2 R' U B2 D2 B2 R2

4.) B' F' U' L' R F2 D L D' U F R2 F' D' U L D2 U2 F2 D2 R' L2 U2 B' U2

5.) L2 U' R L2 D F2 L2 R U2 D2 B2 F U' L B2 D U2 B2 R' U2 L B' D F R2


solutions

1.) Solution
z2
B L' U' D F' U F' U2 M' U2 l U l' - 13
U' R U' r' U' R' U' R' U r U' R' M' U2 M2 U2 R' U R -19
13+19 = 32
2.)Solution
z2 y2
U R2 L' U L U L U' L' U2 L U' L' -13
U2 R2 U' R' U r U' R2 U R U' R2 U M' U2 R U' R' -18
13+18 = 31
3.)Solution
z2 y2
R F2 D' B' L' U F' L M2 U F U' L' U L - 15
R' U R U' R U' R2 U R U2 R M U' M2 R' U R - 17
15+17 = 32
4.)Solution
z2 y2
F R2 L' U2 B M U2 L' U' L U F' -12
U' R' U' R U' R' U2 R U' R' U' B U' B' U r' U' r - 18
12+18=30
5.)Solution
z2 y2
B' U R U' F R' F2 R U' R' -10
U' M' U2 L U L2 U' l U l' M U2 M' R' F' R - 16
10+16 = 26

Comments
well it seems im consitent...
 
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well it seems im consitent

I'd rather be inconsistently good, than consistently bad. No sign of improvement if every solve is about the same and not even one really good solve. Try to get a sub-20, even it takes you 10 minutes.

i plan to i was just puttinghow id normally speed solve them.

when im not time solving i try to never go over 9 moves or i scramble it up and start over

and my comment was meant to have a disparaging overtone text doesnt relay that well...
 
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